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barceloneta Aug 31st 2010 10:17 am

tax question
 
Hello,

brief summary...
two years ago came to the spain to work for company, registered at hacienda and nie, but before i got paid by the spanish side of the company,the crisis hit and it didn't work out. I went back to the uk, before my 183 days were up and set my own british ltd company.

For the last two months have been on holiday in catalunya, but have still been doing work from my uk company on and off here via the internet as well as me commuting to the UK for a fortnight. Whilst here, have gained two clients and see the opportunity of getting more, if i put a little bit of effort in.

So now it makes sense to explore the possiblity of moving here for good, rather than being based in the UK.

To do that, it makes sense to move to the spanish tax system , however, in terms of organisation I like to spend three months doing the transition slowly as to keep my british clients, as well as pragmatically deciding if moving to spain is the right thing to do.... and spend the next three months working one week in the uk, three weeks in spain.

My question is, am i allowed to actively pursue spanish clients in spain such as advertising and personal visits. Then invoice them through my uk ltd company during this period, whilst I decide to set myself up as automono?

And if this is not the case, is there a cut off point for when I must sign up as an autonomo?

JLFS Aug 31st 2010 8:06 pm

Re: tax question
 

Originally Posted by barceloneta (Post 8817225)
Hello,

brief summary...
two years ago came to the spain to work for company, registered at hacienda and nie, but before i got paid by the spanish side of the company,the crisis hit and it didn't work out. I went back to the uk, before my 183 days were up and set my own british ltd company.

For the last two months have been on holiday in catalunya, but have still been doing work from my uk company on and off here via the internet as well as me commuting to the UK for a fortnight. Whilst here, have gained two clients and see the opportunity of getting more, if i put a little bit of effort in.

So now it makes sense to explore the possiblity of moving here for good, rather than being based in the UK.

To do that, it makes sense to move to the spanish tax system , however, in terms of organisation I like to spend three months doing the transition slowly as to keep my british clients, as well as pragmatically deciding if moving to spain is the right thing to do.... and spend the next three months working one week in the uk, three weeks in spain.

My question is, am i allowed to actively pursue spanish clients in spain such as advertising and personal visits. Then invoice them through my uk ltd company during this period, whilst I decide to set myself up as automono?

And if this is not the case, is there a cut off point for when I must sign up as an autonomo?

Wow I wont even pretend to know where to start on that one, and I am sure that if you ask 10 different accountants in Spain, you will get 10 different answers.

:rofl:
Welcome to the forum.

Good luck anyway.

barceloneta Sep 1st 2010 12:29 am

Re: tax question
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8818045)
Wow I wont even pretend to know where to start on that one, and I am sure that if you ask 10 different accountants in Spain, you will get 10 different answers.

:rofl:
Welcome to the forum.

Good luck anyway.

First of all, thanks.

second, must apologise for my poor grammar, but it was late after all.

Third, must apologise for not being gracious in my first post, see second point.

Forth, i think that answer alone confirms it's a grey area, so thanks, it helps a great deal...

Fifth, can't think of fifth point.

Regards

BCNa

jdr Sep 1st 2010 1:38 am

Re: tax question
 
I think if you are advertising for clients in Spain the Spanish taxman will get involved, you pay tax where you live and you are living in Spain.
It`s no good relying on info off the web, you need a good accountant as it could get costly if you do the wrong things. ;);)

cricketman Sep 1st 2010 1:45 am

Re: tax question
 

Originally Posted by jdr (Post 8818676)
I think if you are advertising for clients in Spain the Spanish taxman will get involved, you pay tax where you live and you are living in Spain.
It`s no good relying on info off the web, you need a good accountant as it could get costly if you do the wrong things. ;);)

Yep, the grey area is that if barceloneta has just arrived they will have spent less than 183 days in Spain for the 2010 tax year, so may not need to declare tax (or pay SS?) in Spain until 2011

Best check with someone qualified though


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