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Old Aug 2nd 2007, 9:21 pm
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Originally Posted by zerohero
As usual when you can't face facts you retreat into dismissal mode and say its all "crap".Very easy and not at all clever.Its a fact that the NHS is paid for out of general taxation - NI payments wouldn't even cover NHS catering costs.If its true that you never went to/used schools then that's something I can actually believe!
Have you not heard of private schools ??
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I just wondered, you mentioned death duty tax in the UK. Have you actually researched what will happen to the value of your goods and chattels in Spain when you peg it. If you think UK death dutues are a rip off, wait till your family get stuffed by em in Spain In the UK you get a hefty allowance before tax ... here you get stuff all.

Did you not think there are taxes on goods in Spain btw, on your kettle etc etc?

Think about this reasonably for a change and dont take the blinkered approach
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Old Aug 2nd 2007, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
Pete

I just wondered, you mentioned death duty tax in the UK. Have you actually researched what will happen to the value of your goods and chattels in Spain when you peg it. If you think UK death dutues are a rip off, wait till your family get stuffed by em in Spain In the UK you get a hefty allowance before tax ... here you get stuff all.

Did you not think there are taxes on goods in Spain btw, on your kettle etc etc?

Think about this reasonably for a change and dont take the blinkered approach
I believe his initial post was actually more of a parody than anything else. Maybe you should read back a bit and take it in the context it was meant.
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Originally Posted by SoJohn
the cost of living is lower in Spain.
I can belive that - but what discrepancy is there in wage levels between the two countries?

Anyway, I have no particular beef with Spain, and I mainly put those stats etc up earlier to show that UK levels of taxation are NOT "disgustingly high" when comapred to other developed countries.

And as for Pete indulging in parody, well if he fancies himself as a comedian he should consider me a heckler, not a stalker.

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Originally Posted by elfman
I can belive that - but what discrepancy is there in wage levels between the two countries?

Anyway, I have no particular beef with Spain, and I mainly put those stats etc up earlier to show that UK levels of taxation are NOT "disgustingly high" when comapred to other developed countries.

And as for Pete indulging in parody, well if he fancies himself as a comedian he should consider me a heckler, not a stalker.
No, let's get this right. You came to this thread without any reasonable knowledge of Spain and then decided to post some figures you couldn't understand of verify, in an attempt to somehow undermine BigPetes post. I personally love the UK, it's my home and always will be. Do I have a problem with the income tax? No! Do I have a problem with the National Insurance? No! Sadly, the UK comes undone there after. My biggest reason for leaving the UK is the cost of living. Is Spain perfect? No! Will I be better off? Yes!.

You took website stats you didn't understand to undermine BigPetes post. Why pretend differently?
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Originally Posted by elfman
I can belive that - but what discrepancy is there in wage levels between the two countries?

Anyway, I have no particular beef with Spain, and I mainly put those stats etc up earlier to show that UK levels of taxation are NOT "disgustingly high" when comapred to other developed countries.

And as for Pete indulging in parody, well if he fancies himself as a comedian he should consider me a heckler, not a stalker.

I for one would like to know if elfman is an expat now in usa how come hes in spain forum and how come hes an expert on spain ?
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Originally Posted by Sue-Blue
I for one would like to know if elfman is an expat now in usa how come hes in spain forum and how come hes an expert on spain ?
Hmmmm good point
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Originally Posted by SoJohn

You took website stats you didn't understand to undermine BigPetes post.
BP said that tax in the UK was "disgustingly high"
I posted two sets of stats from the OECD which show otherwise, and you yourself seem to agree, at least partially.
Nothing to misunderstand there.
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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy
Pete

I just wondered, you mentioned death duty tax in the UK. Have you actually researched what will happen to the value of your goods and chattels in Spain when you peg it. If you think UK death dutues are a rip off, wait till your family get stuffed by em in Spain In the UK you get a hefty allowance before tax ... here you get stuff all.

Did you not think there are taxes on goods in Spain btw, on your kettle etc etc?

Think about this reasonably for a change and dont take the blinkered approach
The plan is to spend it before they get it Mitzy Cabin cruisers etc etc
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Originally Posted by Sue-Blue
I for one would like to know if elfman is an expat now in usa how come hes in spain forum and how come hes an expert on spain ?
Yes I am an expat in the USA - as is clear from my sig/profile.
No I'm not an expert on Spain, and never pretended to be - but you don't have to be an expert on Spain to debunk misinformation about the UK.
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Originally Posted by Big Pete
The plan is to spend it before they get it Mitzy Cabin cruisers etc etc
Agree with you there Big Pete. why leave it for your kids etc,, spend spend spend thats what i say ...he he
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Originally Posted by elfman
Yes I am an expat in the USA - as is clear from my sig/profile.
No I'm not an expert on Spain, and never pretended to be - but you don't have to be an expert on Spain to debunk misinformation about the UK.
So why you in spain forum then? and how long you been out of the UK?
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Originally Posted by SoJohn
No, let's get this right. You came to this thread without any reasonable knowledge of Spain and then decided to post some figures you couldn't understand of verify, in an attempt to somehow undermine BigPetes post. I personally love the UK, it's my home and always will be. Do I have a problem with the income tax? No! Do I have a problem with the National Insurance? No! Sadly, the UK comes undone there after. My biggest reason for leaving the UK is the cost of living. Is Spain perfect? No! Will I be better off? Yes!.

You took website stats you didn't understand to undermine BigPetes post. Why pretend differently?
I thought the info was perfectly valid, if someone says the UK pays too much tax then pointing out the tax wedge of other countries seems pretty reasonable.

elfman is correct, whilst the cost of living is cheaper in Spain, the salaries of those working in Spain are often commensurate with the cost of living and frequently lower proportionally. You will be better off due to earning you income from the higher paid northern European employment market whilst the average joe in Spain is probably worse of in PPP compared to the average Brit.
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Originally Posted by Cape Blue
I thought the info was perfectly valid, if someone says the UK pays too much tax then pointing out the tax wedge of other countries seems pretty reasonable.

elfman is correct, whilst the cost of living is cheaper in Spain, the salaries of those working in Spain are often commensurate with the cost of living and frequently lower proportionally. You will be better off due to earning you income from the higher paid northern European employment market whilst the average joe in Spain is probably worse of in PPP compared to the average Brit.
No, he isn't. The fact you think he is right is the scary part. You can't post two rates of tax (Income tax and National Insurance) and declare a country isn't bad for tax, it's ludicrous. There are literally thousands of different taxes, comparing two and then saying the UK isn't bad compared to Spain is complete idiocy.
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Your welcome Big Pete as i said i dont post often but do watch whats being said and i think you have been having a raw deal on here of late. Very unfair. :curse:
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