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stevecosta Jul 10th 2011 5:10 pm

Taking a van to England without tax or MOT
 
Hi everyone,

I have had a good search on here and on the net in general.

I have a UK registered van here in Spain (currently off road). I want to take it back to England this year but it has no valid road tax or mot (insurance either but it will have when I move it).

The only information I have picked up is that you can do this as long as you have a pre-booked appointment for an MOT. Is this correct?

I know at the ports they have plate recognition, so know I will be stopped so want to do this correctly!

Thanks for any help, Steve!

anonimouse Jul 10th 2011 5:26 pm

Re: Taking a van to England without tax or MOT
 

Originally Posted by stevecosta (Post 9486801)
Hi everyone,

I have had a good search on here and on the net in general.

I have a UK registered van here in Spain (currently off road). I want to take it back to England this year but it has no valid road tax or mot (insurance either but it will have when I move it).

The only information I have picked up is that you can do this as long as you have a pre-booked appointment for an MOT. Is this correct?

I know at the ports they have plate recognition, so know I will be stopped so want to do this correctly!

Thanks for any help, Steve!

How long has it been without road tax? You will probably have to pay back up to that date for a start.

I would pre book an MOT close to the port, and obviously get insurance, then sort the tax out later

stevecosta Jul 10th 2011 5:31 pm

Re: Taking a van to England without tax or MOT
 
The tax ran out in January, but i completed the SWORN via internet. Thanks.

Mitzyboy Jul 10th 2011 6:28 pm

Re: Taking a van to England without tax or MOT
 
You should be aware though that you will be driving it through Spain (and probably France) illegally as a car has to be legal in its country of registration.

As far as the UK is concerned, I have heard various stories about booking an MOT, so I guess you take your chances. You wont get tax without insurance, and if you hit any of the numberplate registration cameras then you will be clocked. If so, you then find out if the pre booked MOT will work or not :D

jdr Jul 10th 2011 7:11 pm

Re: Taking a van to England without tax or MOT
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9486893)
You should be aware though that you will be driving it through Spain (and probably France) illegally as a car has to be legal in its country of registration.

As far as the UK is concerned, I have heard various stories about booking an MOT, so I guess you take your chances. You wont get tax without insurance, and if you hit any of the numberplate registration cameras then you will be clocked. If so, you then find out if the pre booked MOT will work or not :D

It may work in UK if he gets that far, best put it on a trailer for what it costs.

Mama_Carol Jul 12th 2011 8:27 am

Re: Taking a van to England without tax or MOT
 
A couple of years ago when we were thinking of doing this I was told by DVLA that you can take a car into the UK if you have an MOT booked close to the port. You must drive straight to the MOT station. The vehicle must have at least third party insurance though.

As someone else said, your problem maybe driving through Spain and France - or are you putting it on a ferry from Santander?

Mitzyboy Jul 12th 2011 8:45 am

Re: Taking a van to England without tax or MOT
 

Originally Posted by Mama_Carol (Post 9490121)
A couple of years ago when we were thinking of doing this I was told by DVLA that you can take a car into the UK if you have an MOT booked close to the port. You must drive straight to the MOT station. The vehicle must have at least third party insurance though.

As someone else said, your problem maybe driving through Spain and France - or are you putting it on a ferry from Santander?

How will the fact that the car has no road tax be viewed though?

Michael74 Jul 12th 2011 9:05 am

Re: Taking a van to England without tax or MOT
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 9490149)
How will the fact that the car has no road tax be viewed though?

Quote from Direct gov web site
"You can drive your vehicle to and from a pre-arranged test at an MOT test station as long as you have adequate insurance cover in place for the use of that vehicle."

But this begs the question if it ain't taxed how do you insure it

Mitzy, no mention of a testing station being close to the port.

Mitzyboy Jul 12th 2011 9:17 am

Re: Taking a van to England without tax or MOT
 

Originally Posted by Michael74 (Post 9490180)
Quote from Direct gov web site
"You can drive your vehicle to and from a pre-arranged test at an MOT test station as long as you have adequate insurance cover in place for the use of that vehicle."

But this begs the question if it ain't taxed how do you insure it

Mitzy, no mention of a testing station being close to the port.

Yes, well I took my Spanish plated car back to the UK and needed an MOT first off. When I got that I changed the insurance to UK, and with both of those I was then able to go and get road tax ... but not before.

Domino Jul 12th 2011 10:11 am

Re: Taking a van to England without tax or MOT
 

Originally Posted by Michael74 (Post 9490180)
Quote from Direct gov web site
"You can drive your vehicle to and from a pre-arranged test at an MOT test station as long as you have adequate insurance cover in place for the use of that vehicle."

But this begs the question if it ain't taxed how do you insure it

Mitzy, no mention of a testing station being close to the port.

Google MOT Stations Dover and get a whole skip full

the insurance "problem" is the reason why the authorities are linking all the relevent elements to ANPR, if you fail one one element you get pulled irrespective.
ISTR getting a leaflet saying the Uk has now imposed an Insurance element on all cars to ensure the car is insured whilst travelling to MOT centre without tax disc. But have thrown it out so cannot refer to it at this time.

You don't have to have tax or mot to get insurance, you don't have to have tax to get mot
You do need insurance when travelling on roads
You do need to have mot and insurance to get tax - when doing the renewal online (a doddle) they automatically check the other docs before completing.

suggest you talk to a local insurance co or one in gib
good luck

Mama_Carol Jul 12th 2011 10:43 am

Re: Taking a van to England without tax or MOT
 
Interesting info

The other time you can use an untaxed vehicle (but must have insurance) in the UK is taking a voter to/from the polling station on election day :D

bobd22 Jul 12th 2011 10:56 am

Re: Taking a van to England without tax or MOT
 

Originally Posted by Mama_Carol (Post 9490365)
Interesting info

The other time you can use an untaxed vehicle (but must have insurance) in the UK is taking a voter to/from the polling station on election day :D

So long as the vehicle is insured and on SORN it will be fine to pre book the MOT and drive there, once passed MOT will then obviously require to be taxed. As for other countries no idea but as you would be complying with UK law immediately on return so long as you are able to explain that should be ok supose it depends on the cop but my informed guess would be it will be too difficult for them so they will give you a bye . It will of course only be registered on the UK ANPR. remember. Of course in the UK now you MUST have insurance and there is SORN in relation this as well.

Sneezey Jul 12th 2011 11:16 am

Re: Taking a van to England without tax or MOT
 
Hi as far as I know the fact that you don't have road tax doesn't matter in Spain , but it will when you arrive in the UK. I don't really know about the MOT. I hope someone else can help you with that:confused::confused:

jdr Jul 12th 2011 12:26 pm

Re: Taking a van to England without tax or MOT
 

Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 9490386)
So long as the vehicle is insured and on SORN it will be fine to pre book the MOT and drive there, once passed MOT will then obviously require to be taxed. As for other countries no idea but as you would be complying with UK law immediately on return so long as you are able to explain that should be ok supose it depends on the cop but my informed guess would be it will be too difficult for them so they will give you a bye . It will of course only be registered on the UK ANPR. remember. Of course in the UK now you MUST have insurance and there is SORN in relation this as well.

Isn`t it an offence to declare it SORN and then use it on the road, a UK car out of the UK is still covered by UK regulations.

Fred James Jul 12th 2011 12:45 pm

Re: Taking a van to England without tax or MOT
 
You can only declare SORN if the car remains in the UK.


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