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big wheels Oct 9th 2010 10:50 am

Re: Spanish Residentia
 
[QUOTE=Lenox;8907750]Well, you need it to get on the padrón - which you need for various reasons: buying a car and so on.QUOTE]


I have read a few times on this forum that you need to be on the padron to buy a car. This is NOT the case. I have bought 2 cars from 2 different dealers over the past 5 yrs. All I have needed is my passport for ID, my NIE number and a utility bill to confirm my address. + the cash.

jdr Oct 10th 2010 12:23 am

Re: Spanish Residentia
 
[QUOTE=big wheels;8907890]

Originally Posted by Lenox (Post 8907750)
Well, you need it to get on the padrón - which you need for various reasons: buying a car and so on.QUOTE]


I have read a few times on this forum that you need to be on the padron to buy a car. This is NOT the case. I have bought 2 cars from 2 different dealers over the past 5 yrs. All I have needed is my passport for ID, my NIE number and a utility bill to confirm my address. + the cash.

I needed, NIE, residencia, padron, cash, and they had to check my UK licence to get my new moto on the road here a few weeks ago, so maybe things are changing.
I bought a car with just an NIE and cash a few years ago.

megmet Oct 25th 2010 12:54 pm

Re: Spanish Residentia
 
[QUOTE=jdr;8908789]

Originally Posted by big wheels (Post 8907890)

I needed, NIE, residencia, padron, cash, and they had to check my UK licence to get my new moto on the road here a few weeks ago, so maybe things are changing.
I bought a car with just an NIE and cash a few years ago.

About time they started to tighten up on the rules for residentia, if all ex-pats registered and also put their name on the padron there would be more money allocated to local councils and health centres,... the amount they get is based on the number of registered residents in their area.

So next time we are all complaining about the holes that are still in our roads after the winter.....blame the lack of money on the (mostly) Brits who are not on the register!

snikpoh Oct 25th 2010 6:16 pm

Re: Spanish Residentia
 
[QUOTE=megmet;8942157]

Originally Posted by jdr (Post 8908789)

About time they started to tighten up on the rules for residentia, if all ex-pats registered and also put their name on the padron there would be more money allocated to local councils and health centres,... the amount they get is based on the number of registered residents in their area.

So next time we are all complaining about the holes that are still in our roads after the winter.....blame the lack of money on the (mostly) Brits who are not on the register!

... it's nothing to do with the register, it's the padron that counts!

lynnxa Oct 25th 2010 6:25 pm

Re: Spanish Residentia
 

Originally Posted by snikpoh (Post 8942524)

... it's nothing to do with the register, it's the padron that counts!

I was just about to say that




and I tidied up the quotes;)




was it that JLFS again???

jdr Oct 26th 2010 12:26 am

Re: Spanish Residentia
 

Originally Posted by lynnxa (Post 8942529)
I was just about to say that




and I tidied up the quotes;)




was it that JLFS again???

No, big wheels this time. lol

Grebo Oct 26th 2010 1:11 am

Re: Spanish Residentia
 

Originally Posted by Lenox (Post 8907750)
Well, you need it to get on the padrón -

Not where we live, or when we lived in Torrevieja ( several years ago I add )
In fact, we have never needed it for any thing.
Certainly not for vehicle purchases & we have done a few over the years :)
We have NIE's are on the padron, pay all the taxes going :( (self employed) & not been asked for it once.
Guess it's another thing that various from place to place.

Mitzyboy Oct 26th 2010 3:11 am

Re: Spanish Residentia
 

Originally Posted by Grebo (Post 8943173)
Not where we live, or when we lived in Torrevieja ( several years ago I add )
In fact, we have never needed it for any thing.
Certainly not for vehicle purchases & we have done a few over the years :)
We have NIE's are on the padron, pay all the taxes going :( (self employed) & not been asked for it once.
Guess it's another thing that various from place to place.

But as stated, the more people on the padron the more funds the town hall get ... so by not being on it your local services are being short changed.

I couldn't register a car in my name without having an up to date certificate. I couldnt sign on at the local doctors without one.

Registering on the foreigners list (residencia) is of course a legal requirement here

EsuriJohn Oct 26th 2010 4:51 am

Re: Spanish Residentia
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 8943427)
But as stated, the more people on the padron the more funds the town hall get ... so by not being on it your local services are being short changed.

I couldn't register a car in my name without having an up to date certificate. I couldnt sign on at the local doctors without one.

Registering on the foreigners list (residencia) is of course a legal requirement here

I have just registered as a tax resident and I was gobsmacked to be asked for my Padron as well as the Modelo 030. My copy is 4 yrs old and they accepted it a the local Hacienda so one never ceases to be amazed.

megmet Oct 26th 2010 10:28 am

Re: Spanish Residentia
 
[QUOTE=snikpoh;8942524]

Originally Posted by megmet (Post 8942157)

... it's nothing to do with the register, it's the padron that counts!

Note that I said...."put their names on the Padron".

Grebo Oct 26th 2010 9:00 pm

Re: Spanish Residentia
 

Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 8943427)
But as stated, the more people on the padron the more funds the town hall get ... so by not being on it your local services are being short changed.

I couldn't register a car in my name without having an up to date certificate. I couldnt sign on at the local doctors without one.

Registering on the foreigners list (residencia) is of course a legal requirement here

We are talking about the certificate of residencia not the padron ;)

Arn't we :unsure:

angie mccready Oct 26th 2010 9:06 pm

Re: Spanish Residentia
 
i understood that if u have your residencia it goes in your favour when it comes to selling your house . apparently you pay less tax! have i been misinformed??

EsuriJohn Oct 26th 2010 9:09 pm

Re: Spanish Residentia
 

Originally Posted by angie mccready (Post 8945012)
i understood that if u have your residencia it goes in your favour when it comes to selling your house . apparently you pay less tax! have i been misinformed??

Yes it is being Tax registered that counts and for that you need to have completed the Modelo 030 and of course paid any income tax due.

angie mccready Oct 26th 2010 9:11 pm

Re: Spanish Residentia
 
whats the modelo 030?, i have residencia but i cant say iv heard of that!

HBG Oct 26th 2010 9:12 pm

Re: Spanish Residentia
 
I always get frightened by these legal threads and it made me check my documents. Most things appear to be out of date, including my residencia.

So, here we go again, I’ve downloaded some forms, collected some more from the police station and the form filling has commenced. The queuing is about to start all over again and I can’t find my escritura for the padron, I know I’ve hidden it but have forgotten where.

When I collected the forms from the foreigners office it was full of dodgy looking Moroccans and Chinese. Oh, what fun!


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