Spanish Residency & Brexit
Hola Forum members ,
I am planning to register for residency before 31 Dec. 2020, in fact am arriving in Spain in a couple of weeks to start the process. My wife and I are in our 70s but only I will be registering for residency. We have had our property in joint names in Spain for 16 years but never took up residency, just visited for between 1-3 months. Will registering for residency myself pose any problems? Also what documents do I need to present when registering? Is there a likelihood for the residency registeration and application process to be extended bearing in mind the Covid19 issues in Spain which has put paid to many people's plans for applying for residency? Surely the Spanish authorities must take the situation into account. Stay safe everyone. |
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Originally Posted by ValTay0607
(Post 12889561)
Hola Forum members ,
I am planning to register for residency before 31 Dec. 2020, in fact am arriving in Spain in a couple of weeks to start the process. My wife and I are in our 70s but only I will be registering for residency. We have had our property in joint names in Spain for 16 years but never took up residency, just visited for between 1-3 months. Will registering for residency myself pose any problems? Also what documents do I need to present when registering? Is there a likelihood for the residency registeration and application process to be extended bearing in mind the Covid19 issues in Spain which has put paid to many people's plans for applying for residency? Surely the Spanish authorities must take the situation into account. Stay safe everyone. Why would your wife not register - it's a legal obligation if she is living here with you. The only big change will be that you and your wife will (in all possibility) become tax resident in Spain and not the UK The requirements are well documented in CAB Spain |
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My wife wants to retain he UK residency, hence not wanting to register in Spain.
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If she does not register, she will only be able to stay for 90 days in any 180 day period. She will also be deemed as tax resident in Spain because you will be a Spanish tax resident.
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Originally Posted by ValTay0607
(Post 12889621)
My wife wants to retain he UK residency, hence not wanting to register in Spain.
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Thanks, Fred & Christmasoompa, for your responses.
Perhaps I should have elaborated. My wife will continue to reside in the UK and use the up to 90 day permissible stay in Spain as and when. Would this still deem her "resident for tax purposes" because her spouse (myself) will be Spanish resident? I will of course remain in Spain until I get my Residency Card and subsequently check the rules on length of stays permissible outside Spain. If both sides allow, we intend to spend time in Spain & the UK. |
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Hi ValTay, No one,least of all the British Govn.seems to have a clue about exactly what will happen to British Nationals,resident or non-resident,after Brexit.For those who say that people came before Spain joined the EU & it was all hunky dory & will be again after WE leave,I can only say that my family was here at that time but we owned a legitimate business,& it was not quite that way as the Spanish made up the rules as they went along & there was no one(like an MEP) to argue the case for us.I would think in your situation,your spouse living apart from you for most of the year,the Spanish MAY find that rather a strange arrangement & perhaps it is for some kind of financial gain.And just perhaps they then could be losing out on some taxable income?Only my thoughts though.
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The territory ahead will be full of pitfalls !
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Originally Posted by Fred James
(Post 12889624)
If she does not register, she will only be able to stay for 90 days in any 180 day period. She will also be deemed as tax resident in Spain because you will be a Spanish tax resident.
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Originally Posted by ValTay0607
(Post 12889561)
Hola Forum members ,
I am planning to register for residency before 31 Dec. 2020, in fact am arriving in Spain in a couple of weeks to start the process. My wife and I are in our 70s but only I will be registering for residency. We have had our property in joint names in Spain for 16 years but never took up residency, just visited for between 1-3 months. Will registering for residency myself pose any problems? Also what documents do I need to present when registering? Is there a likelihood for the residency registeration and application process to be extended https://www.costablancaforum.com/are...part-1-107067/ |
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A wife can be “deemed” to be tax resident if her spouse and family live in Spain. However, if she can prove that she is legally resident and paying UK tax, I doubt that the Spanish tax office would have a problem with that. Having a UK certificate of tax residency (if that is possible) in the unlikely event that they would pick you up on it, could be a good idea.
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Bobd22, thanks for the link. Browsed through it but regards documents to be presented at registration, I was not able t see anything about providing proof of healthcare i.e. the S1 form or healthcare insurance or is this not required for UK pensioners who are registering or does it need to be presented at a later stage? Also do i have attend the registration office in person or can I register online using the Electronic signature system ( how do I apply for the Digital Signature? ) Am I barking up the wrong tree here?
Fred, I would think you are right regards the tax side of things. My wife is a pensioner receiving a UK state pension. Spanish authorities shouldn't worry. |
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Be careful. You cannot move any assets between yourself and wife if you live in spain as gifts are all taxed. Well you can but unlike uk all movements are taxable) This could be s problem if you own joint assests ( properties) further down the line.
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Originally Posted by ValTay0607
(Post 12889782)
Bobd22, thanks for the link. Browsed through it but regards documents to be presented at registration, I was not able t see anything about providing proof of healthcare i.e. the S1 form or healthcare insurance or is this not required for UK pensioners who are registering or does it need to be presented at a later stage? Also do i have attend the registration office in person or can I register online using the Electronic signature system ( how do I apply for the Digital Signature? ) Am I barking up the wrong tree here?
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Heres a link for the forms you require
PORTAL DE INMIGRACIÓN. Modelos generales Here's a link for booking citia previa (appointment) at Extranjero Office and Police Station https://sede.administracionespublica...lus/index.html |
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