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lindasal Oct 6th 2021 10:44 am

Re: Spanish motorcycle licence
 
I for one am sincerely hoping they reach agreement of the licence exchange , we are moving over early next year and I hold a car licence, motor cycle, and HGV class 1. I would hate to have to go through that lot again.....

Chipmonk Oct 6th 2021 11:01 am

Re: Spanish motorcycle licence
 
I am not sure there is an agreement to be made in the reciprocal sense. 3rd country nationals in UK need UK licences but seeing as they also need English language as a residential requirement it is not something they complain about. Brits unfortunately are still having to adjust to a world that can equally regard them as immigrants and the disadvantages that carries

Flyingbanana Oct 6th 2021 11:15 am

Re: Spanish motorcycle licence
 

Originally Posted by lindasal (Post 13059087)
I for one am sincerely hoping they reach agreement of the licence exchange , we are moving over early next year and I hold a car licence, motor cycle, and HGV class 1. I would hate to have to go through that lot again.....

SNAP!!!

Fred James Oct 6th 2021 12:30 pm

Re: Spanish motorcycle licence
 

Originally Posted by Chipmonk (Post 13059091)
I . 3rd country nationals in UK need UK licences but seeing as they also need English language as a residential requirement

Since when has the ability to speak English been a requirement for residency? Citizenship yes.

Spain has agreeemnts with nearly 30 non EU countries to exchange licences - why should an agreemnt with the UK be a problem, especially as current UK licences already meet the EU requirements. It's only a matter of when, not if.

Flyingbanana Oct 6th 2021 1:19 pm

Re: Spanish motorcycle licence
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 13059117)
Since when has the ability to speak English been a requirement for residency? Citizenship yes.

Spain has agreeemnts with nearly 30 non EU countries to exchange licences - why should an agreemnt with the UK be a problem, especially as current UK licences already meet the EU requirements. It's only a matter of when, not if.

Fingers crossed Fred

Chipmonk Oct 6th 2021 1:25 pm

Re: Spanish motorcycle licence
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 13059117)
Since when has the ability to speak English been a requirement for residency? Citizenship yes.

Spain has agreeemnts with nearly 30 non EU countries to exchange licences - why should an agreemnt with the UK be a problem, especially as current UK licences already meet the EU requirements. It's only a matter of when, not if.


To obtain a UK Visa you need proof of English Language. Even a spouse of a UK national needs English Language as a residency requirement.

Mark604 Oct 6th 2021 2:30 pm

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I wonder if anyone has considered the difficulty a poor English speaker would have when reading the rules, in English, for residency when it says, "Leave to Remain" and two of the definitions of 'leave'.
Maybe that is part of the test.

Albir_Tom Oct 6th 2021 3:07 pm

Re: Spanish motorcycle licence
 
Thanks for the replies but I’m still as confused as I was in the beginning so I’ll be a bit more specific...

I only recently became a Spanish resident but been in Spain for a long time, unfortunately i have fell into the bracket of people that need to take a Spanish driving test (car) to obtain a licence which I’m not worried about as I speak generally good Spanish and you can do it all in English in Torrevieja anyway lol

but what I do want to do is buy a Honda X-ADV 750cc scooter in which you need (carnet A2) to ride one, it is not a geared motorbike it’s a rev and go scooter but very fast,

I would just like to know if I can go to some sort of training centre specifically to obtain a carnet A2 ??

or like somebody said in this thread do you need to obtain the A1 first and be competent upto a certain cc for a while before you can get the A2 ??

something about that rings familiar with the U.K. actually now I think about it 🤔

if this is all the case then that is my Honda X-ADV 750cc idea out the window isn’t it haha!!

on the back of my U.K. car driving licence I have A and AM for motorbikes, I did have a 125cc scooter on my U.K. driving licence in Spain a few years back, might just have to get one of those again 🤣

bobd22 Oct 6th 2021 3:21 pm

Re: Spanish motorcycle licence
 

Originally Posted by Albir_Tom (Post 13059198)
Thanks for the replies but I’m still as confused as I was in the beginning so I’ll be a bit more specific...

I only recently became a Spanish resident but been in Spain for a long time, unfortunately i have fell into the bracket of people that need to take a Spanish driving test (car) to obtain a licence which I’m not worried about as I speak generally good Spanish and you can do it all in English in Torrevieja anyway lol

but what I do want to do is buy a Honda X-ADV 750cc scooter in which you need (carnet A2) to ride one, it is not a geared motorbike it’s a rev and go scooter but very fast,

I would just like to know if I can go to some sort of training centre specifically to obtain a carnet A2 ??

or like somebody said in this thread do you need to obtain the A1 first and be competent upto a certain cc for a while before you can get the A2 ??

something about that rings familiar with the U.K. actually now I think about it 🤔

if this is all the case then that is my Honda X-ADV 750cc idea out the window isn’t it haha!!

on the back of my U.K. car driving licence I have A and AM for motorbikes, I did have a 125cc scooter on my U.K. driving licence in Spain a few years back, might just have to get one of those again 🤣

Here's some information re what you ask. One thing is A2 is not necessarily about engine size but engine power max 35 BHP. Some bikes are capable of having the power output restricted. Also I believe (I may be wrong) but as you will need to take the Spanish car test that would make you a new driver with requirement to display the green L plate for 12 months. I think you have to have held the Spanish car licence for a set period of time before it allows you to drive up to 125 motorbike?
https://www.healthplanspain.com/blog...-in-spain.html

Albir_Tom Oct 6th 2021 3:22 pm

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https://www.diariomotor.com/noticia/...xamen-a2-2021/


this sounds promising

Albir_Tom Oct 6th 2021 3:23 pm

Re: Spanish motorcycle licence
 

Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 13059201)
Here's some information re what you ask. One thing is A2 is not necessarily about engine size but engine power max 35 BHP. Some bikes are capable of having the power output restricted. Also I believe (I may be wrong) but as you will need to take the Spanish car test that would make you a new driver with requirement to display the green L plate for 12 months. I think you have to have held the Spanish car licence for a set period of time before it allows you to drive up to 125 motorbike?
https://www.healthplanspain.com/blog...-in-spain.html

oh yea I think you’re right..... maybe have to wait 3 years. You never know though.... we will probably be able to swap the U.K. licenses again soon lol

Fred James Oct 6th 2021 5:20 pm

Re: Spanish motorcycle licence
 

Originally Posted by Chipmonk (Post 13059142)
To obtain a UK Visa you need proof of English Language. Even a spouse of a UK national needs English Language as a residency requirement.

Please give a link to where that is stated - I couldn’t find one.

Mark604 Oct 6th 2021 5:52 pm

Re: Spanish motorcycle licence
 
Sorry for the formatting, but is this it?

"You may be eligible for settlement (indefinite leave to remain) if your partner is:
  • a British citizen
  • settled in the UK
If you’re 18 to 64 years old when you apply you must also:
https://www.gov.uk/settle-in-the-uk/...h-your-partner

Joppa Oct 6th 2021 5:55 pm

Re: Spanish motorcycle licence
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 13059248)
Please give a link to where that is stated - I couldn’t find one.

Family visas: apply, extend or switch: Knowledge of English - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)
There are some exceptions, such as those aged 65+, from predominantly English speaking country, with mental incapacity etc, but usually you have to show English speaking ability by passing an approved test at A1 level or above, degree taught in English. To extend your stay after 2.5 years, you need language test pass at A2 or higher. For settlement (indefinite leave to remain), it's B1.

Lefty2021 Oct 6th 2021 7:36 pm

Re: Spanish motorcycle licence
 

Originally Posted by bobd22 (Post 13059069)
Also ones ability to learn a new language is different for all of us. You may have found learning Spanish easy many don't, we are all different.

I can honestly say at nearly 60 years old learning Spanish is not easy, well t isn’t easy for me 😂 I did duolingo for 12 months and I have been having lessons for the last 5 months, my teacher said only last night it generally takes 4 years to become competent, there will certainly of course be exceptions due to starting at younger ages 😁


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