Spanish girl learns English (but claims benefits) in Edinburgh
May 20th 2010, 3:17 pm
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May 20th 2010, 3:18 pm
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No-one gets free surgery from the spaniards!
May 20th 2010, 3:23 pm
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Anyway, does that (certainly not Spanish) girl that claim benefits in Edimburgh not pay VAT? Paying VAT is not an "all included" pass to all services in a country.
May 20th 2010, 3:57 pm
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I am not blaming Brits for that: there are people all over Europe that take advantage of this. All the time; it's a well known fact in Spain. You can read it in the Spanish papers (if you ever read them)
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May 20th 2010, 4:45 pm
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For every UK pensioner on the Spanish health system they receive a fee and I believe ops etc are paid for by the UK health system on top extra.
May 20th 2010, 5:01 pm
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No. Spain is not paid by the UK government, it is paid by the EU. And calculations show that less than 30% of the health expenses incurred by expats are effectively covered that way. And now I am talking about retired residents, not about tourists getting free operations.
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May 20th 2010, 5:12 pm
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They can get it treated here, cos the UK pays the bill whether you have a card or are a pensioner here.
This came up before and DWP confirmed that the UK pay into the Spanish system for pensioners living over here, E106 to register at SS and tourists with the card.
May 20th 2010, 5:21 pm
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again: what about those services not covered by the NHS? Not to talk about the quality standars of both countries... (the UK has many, many things better than Spain, but certainly the health system is not among them)
May 20th 2010, 5:27 pm
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No. Spain is not paid by the UK government, it is paid by the EU. And calculations show that less than 30% of the health expenses incurred by expats are effectively covered that way. And now I am talking about retired residents, not about tourists getting free operations.
The Spanish fall all over themselves to give good service and do as much as they can (speaking from personal experience) as they know they will get paid from the UK health system.
As the UK pay, we now have to get our holiday cover cards from the UK and not the Spanish SS office.
May 20th 2010, 5:45 pm
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Maybe you need to check your links and figures.
The Spanish fall all over themselves to give good service and do as much as they can (speaking from personal experience) as they know they will get paid from the UK health system.
As the UK pay, we now have to get our holiday cover cards from the UK and not the Spanish SS office.
The Spanish fall all over themselves to give good service and do as much as they can (speaking from personal experience) as they know they will get paid from the UK health system.
As the UK pay, we now have to get our holiday cover cards from the UK and not the Spanish SS office.
Please show me your links and figures, maybe if I see them you can convince me. However, the estimate is that countries only refund 30% of the expenditure to the Spanish health system.
What you mean by "now"? (I've lived in the UK for the last year so maybe the systme's changed, but I doubt it so much)
Spain do as much as they can not because they are going to be paid by the UK Gov. The doctor and the nurse will get paid the same, doesn't mind the patient is Spanish, British, or an illegal inmigrant.
And none of you are answering me: there are a lot of tourists that get surgery which is NOT COVERED by their nationals systems back home, and that healthcare is NOT REFUNDED. NEVER.
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May 20th 2010, 5:50 pm
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Re: Spanish girl learns English (but claims benefits) in Edinburgh
Please show me your links and figures, maybe if I see them you can convince me. However, the estimate is that countries only refund 30% of the expenditure to the Spanish health system.
What you mean by "now"? (I've lived in the UK for the last year so maybe the systme's changed, but I doubt it so much)
Spain do as much as they can not because they are going to be paid by the UK Gov. The doctor and the nurse will get paid the same, doesn't mind the patient is Spanish, British, or an illegal inmigrant.
And none of you are answering me: there are a lot of tourists that get surgery which is NOT COVERED by their nationals systems back home, and that healthcare is NOT REFUNDED. NEVER.
What you mean by "now"? (I've lived in the UK for the last year so maybe the systme's changed, but I doubt it so much)
Spain do as much as they can not because they are going to be paid by the UK Gov. The doctor and the nurse will get paid the same, doesn't mind the patient is Spanish, British, or an illegal inmigrant.
And none of you are answering me: there are a lot of tourists that get surgery which is NOT COVERED by their nationals systems back home, and that healthcare is NOT REFUNDED. NEVER.
please provide links that show they don't
May 20th 2010, 6:13 pm
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Anyway, AGAIN, my point is that under the Spanish law, one cannot be denied first aid (and that include a vast, enormously wide range of services as compared to the NHS schemes), and many people wich are NOT RESIDENTS take advantage of that fact and get surgery that is not covered by their national systems.
May 20th 2010, 6:18 pm
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Please show me your links and figures, maybe if I see them you can convince me. However, the estimate is that countries only refund 30% of the expenditure to the Spanish health system.
What you mean by "now"? (I've lived in the UK for the last year so maybe the systme's changed, but I doubt it so much)
Spain do as much as they can not because they are going to be paid by the UK Gov. The doctor and the nurse will get paid the same, doesn't mind the patient is Spanish, British, or an illegal inmigrant.
And none of you are answering me: there are a lot of tourists that get surgery which is NOT COVERED by their nationals systems back home, and that healthcare is NOT REFUNDED. NEVER.
What you mean by "now"? (I've lived in the UK for the last year so maybe the systme's changed, but I doubt it so much)
Spain do as much as they can not because they are going to be paid by the UK Gov. The doctor and the nurse will get paid the same, doesn't mind the patient is Spanish, British, or an illegal inmigrant.
And none of you are answering me: there are a lot of tourists that get surgery which is NOT COVERED by their nationals systems back home, and that healthcare is NOT REFUNDED. NEVER.
May 20th 2010, 6:21 pm
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Sorry, but where exactly?
Anyway, AGAIN, my point is that under the Spanish law, one cannot be denied first aid (and that include a vast, enormously wide range of services as compared to the NHS schemes), and many people wich are NOT RESIDENTS take advantage of that fact and get surgery that is not covered by their national systems.
Anyway, AGAIN, my point is that under the Spanish law, one cannot be denied first aid (and that include a vast, enormously wide range of services as compared to the NHS schemes), and many people wich are NOT RESIDENTS take advantage of that fact and get surgery that is not covered by their national systems.
