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Old May 18th 2023, 7:18 pm
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The pictures from Italy are extraordinary- it really looks apocalyptic and yet people still don't seem worried because they think it won't happen to them. I remember when the first villages in Italy brought in the confinement in the beginning of covid and everyone was saying that such a dramatic thing would never happen in other places!. How wrong we were.
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Old May 18th 2023, 8:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Ronnyone
The pictures from Italy are extraordinary- it really looks apocalyptic and yet people still don't seem worried because they think it won't happen to them. I remember when the first villages in Italy brought in the confinement in the beginning of covid and everyone was saying that such a dramatic thing would never happen in other places!. How wrong we were.
North Italy always had plenty of rain but now it just goes from one extreme to the next. Saying that, I remember watching a programme and Italy’s geography just makes it vulnerable to climate disasters. Floods, landslides, terrible thunderstorms and earthquakes have always been hitting the country. The worst earthquake apparently killed 95.000 people. Of course people never want to believe that the dramatic scenes will affect them. We just have to look to La Palma and although people knew it was an active volcano, they still built luxury villas right beneath it. Even today you could talk to British or Irish people and mention the risks but the answer is always "sure, but they have better weather"
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Old May 19th 2023, 5:34 am
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The problem isn't just how we as individuals feel it's also the economic consequences of these weather extremes that people tend to ignore. Huge amounts of crops were lost yesterday through parts of spain thanks to the extreme hail. Animals are being taken to market early because of lack of vegetation. All this will impact us in the coming months. Yet people still feel it isn't worth doing anything much about. Spain makes little attempt to ween itself off tourism and deal with better water conservation. Look at the up and coming elections- apart from the greens the environment is simply not on any parties main agenda- instead they ( unbelievably) are arguing about ETA!!!. How totally ridiculous and pathetic!!!!
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Of course the economic consequences are huge, we still never seem to learn. Maybe it's time to realise that some parts of the country just don't have the conditions to raise cattle or grow certain crops.
This is our biggest problem and humans today try to change the environment rather than looking at what the environment can offer. It's like trying to fix a bad computer game with various patches, it still won't make the poorly written storyline any better. Instead of getting rid of the golf course, we look at how we can conserve water to keep the golf course green. All it means is that more people come and more water is needed and you eventually have the same problems again.
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Old May 19th 2023, 2:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Ronnyone
The problem isn't just how we as individuals feel it's also the economic consequences of these weather extremes that people tend to ignore. Huge amounts of crops were lost yesterday through parts of spain thanks to the extreme hail. Animals are being taken to market early because of lack of vegetation. All this will impact us in the coming months. Yet people still feel it isn't worth doing anything much about. Spain makes little attempt to ween itself off tourism and deal with better water conservation. Look at the up and coming elections- apart from the greens the environment is simply not on any parties main agenda- instead they ( unbelievably) are arguing about ETA!!!. How totally ridiculous and pathetic!!!!
why would Spain want to ween itself off tourism. They cater for tourists pretty much better than any country and make a lot of money from doing it.
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the rain didn't seem to help.

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Old Jun 2nd 2023, 3:58 pm
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It's always the same and either flooded or not enough rain it seems. In the West of Ireland we are having (for us) high temps and no rain in sight which is causing serious problems. Was out near Letterfrack yesterday and because Spain is the fifth largest market for tourism, we always see a lot of Spanish out and about. Were sitting next to a family while having lunch and even they were surprised it was so hot and needed to seek shade. Today I was just glad to walk in the forest and now know why we never come to Spain during summer.
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Old Jun 2nd 2023, 4:23 pm
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It's always the same and either flooded or not enough rain it seems. In the West of Ireland we are having (for us) high temps and no rain in sight which is causing serious problems. Was out near Letterfrack yesterday and because Spain is the fifth largest market for tourism, we always see a lot of Spanish out and about. Were sitting next to a family while having lunch and even they were surprised it was so hot and needed to seek shade. Today I was just glad to walk in the forest and now know why we never come to Spain during summer.
If those Spanish tourists are looking for rain they should come to central Italy. We have had storms almost every afternoon since April.
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Originally Posted by philat98
If those Spanish tourists are looking for rain they should come to central Italy. We have had storms almost every afternoon since April.
I heard and a work colleague who always goes to Italy was complaining about it. Not all Spanish looking for rain😉 but many go fishing and hiking. Not looking good if it continues
https://www.midlands103.com/news/mid...-heat-on-fish/
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Old Jun 22nd 2023, 9:39 am
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Looks like parts of Andalusia will hit 44/45C again, hard to imagine how working people must feel.



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Old Jun 24th 2023, 8:47 am
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In Catalonia at least you can't work with machinery at that temperature, it's banned. That lead to the fires last year in Aragon as there it isn't.

Also for anyone who hasn't seen it, here's
in Catalonia... Foc is the Catalan word for fire. I guess it's competing against TikTok and YouTube so it has to, er, stand out...
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In Catalonia at least you can't work with machinery at that temperature, it's banned. That lead to the fires last year in Aragon as there it isn't.

Also for anyone who hasn't seen it, here's this year's advertising campaign in Catalonia... Foc is the Catalan word for fire. I guess it's competing against TikTok and YouTube so it has to, er, stand out...
Great campaign and sometimes the strict laws in Catalonia definitely make sense.
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hard to imagine how working people must feel.
dripping sweat while trying to wash cars, and that's inside the warehouse. I wouldn't wanna be outside unless there's a breeze.
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Firstly I'm not so familiar with this matter, but do you think countries should start to invest in desalination plans? Once I've read that it is quite expensive. (hope the question is not too stupid
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Firstly I'm not so familiar with this matter, but do you think countries should start to invest in desalination plans? Once I've read that it is quite expensive. (hope the question is not too stupid
Here is a good explanation. One thing to consider is that there are many inland locations. Although possible there seem to be issues

https://kvia.com/news/2022/11/03/the-worlds-largest-inland-desalination-plant-is-right-here-in-el-paso/












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