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Old Nov 3rd 2023, 2:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Fred James
After spending millions of EU money on the huge dam on the road from the coast to Granada (the Rules Dam), they have, only 20 years later, thought about actually connecting it up to the Costa Tropical irrigation system. Two pipes, 17km long costing €62m will start construction in January.

So, pipelines are possible, but the south will be a desert before it gets connected the the wetter areas.
Good point and even the wettest areas don't seem to have enough water. When you look to the North, they still have droughts and use enough water themselves.
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Old Nov 3rd 2023, 5:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Lou71
This may sound mad but what is needed is a massive water pipeline that pumps water into the Vinuela reservoir from somewhere in the north.

Pipelines are possible for oil and gas so why not water?
I said this earlier in the thread and got shot down pretty fast....
Does the government have the use of eminent domain here in Spain?
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Old Nov 3rd 2023, 7:42 pm
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If the Arabs can build mega cities in the desert, then I don’t see why the Spanish can’t build something to move water to dry places. They are on about having to boat water into Barcelona if the drought continues.
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Old Nov 3rd 2023, 8:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Stingychips
If the Arabs can build mega cities in the desert, then I don’t see why the Spanish can’t build something to move water to dry places. They are on about having to boat water into Barcelona if the drought continues.
The Arabs have oil to finance desalination plants.
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Old Nov 3rd 2023, 8:48 pm
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Originally Posted by growinspain
I said this earlier in the thread and got shot down pretty fast....
Does the government have the use of eminent domain here in Spain?
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Sorry, I didn't realise you had already suggested it!

I have no idea how a project of this kind would be financed but it may come to a point where they have no choice. It would certainly be a very major undertaking and it might have to be a pan European project with the water coming from France and serving Portugal too.

As far as I know, the Spanish government have the power of compulsory purchasing of land with compensation.
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Old Nov 3rd 2023, 10:21 pm
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Finance isn’t the issue. Political will is. The EU has just given Italy something like 170 billion and Spain something like 80 billion of OUR money to regenerate and boost the economy. Here a lot of that will go on grants to big business creating huge solar farms. A lot will just vanish with little accountability.

There is a national network of trunk roads. A pipeline network could be constructed. Dozens more (solar powered) desalination plants could be constructed. Israel are pretty good at desalination and reuse of water. There isnt the will. Perhaps a problem not helped by having Self governing Regions and a weak central government.

Malaga is set to overtake Seville population wise. No real sign of regulation of farmers re irrigation. The recent “ swoop” on a square kilometre of olives centred on our house by the junta produced zero denuncias for illegal irrigation within the last five years. Should have been two. The auditing officers crossed double figures of illegal current irrigation they could easily have investigated due to “ road crossings” crudely repaired on the road to the target sq km. As I said earlier the countryside here exists solely for the exploitation by farmers. If you cannot grow crops, they call it a national park.
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The President of the Junta de Andalucia has just announced that "portable" desalination machinery is to be installed in my area (and in Marbella). I didn't know such a thing existed. The building of an actual desalination plant doesn't seem to be progressing any faster than the usual glacial pace of any major infrastructure project, they haven't even decided which bid to accept yet. They are also going to instal a new connection point to the water treatment system so that water can be brought in by ship if necessary.

Juanma Moreno anuncia la instalación de desaladoras portátiles en la Axarquía - AxarquiaPlus
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Originally Posted by Moses2013
The Arabs have oil to finance desalination plants.
The Arabs have trillions to sport wash and get rid of by any means hence Man City buying the treble every year, Newcastle going from nobody's to somebody's and a world cup in the winter in a country that doesn't even have a football team.... Not to mention LIV golf etc whereas Spain appears bankrupt in comparison.....
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Old Dec 3rd 2023, 12:09 pm
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Let us hope this works and is beneficial

https://www.spainenglish.com/2023/11...rom-drying-up/
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