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Mark604 Sep 2nd 2023 10:54 pm

Re: Spains drying up
 
I can echo the above in that all the olive trees around us have virtually nothing on them.

growinspain Sep 3rd 2023 12:51 am

Re: Spains drying up
 

Originally Posted by Mark604 (Post 13213295)
I can echo the above in that all the olive trees around us have virtually nothing on them.

our trees are loaded this year..... They do get a drip of water 3-4 days a week though.... A lot of water here outside of Gandia

olivefarmer Sep 3rd 2023 1:19 am

Re: Spains drying up
 
Good quality rain here in the Poniente. Our olive trees are going to give us an average harvest amazingly. Most around us will have another miserable harvest. My neighbour is going to prune his trees without olives before harvest time. Makes sense to stagger the work.

Unsurprisingly , supermarket sales of olive oil is dropping . Price? Taste change? French farmers are being encouraged to switch from vines to olives….. Reason is that EU wine production is up but consumption is down. More people switching to craft beers…..

Big protest in Cordoba on the 5th against lack of support for farmers from government and stricter rules from the EU.

scrubbedexpat147 Sep 3rd 2023 2:23 am

Re: Spains drying up
 
Seems like olive farming is making a come back in Spain.

growinspain Sep 3rd 2023 2:32 am

Re: Spains drying up
 

Originally Posted by Stingychips (Post 13213320)
Seems like olive farming is making a come back in Spain.

i am pretty sure it is the worlds largest producer of olive oil and has been for a while now..

Mark604 Sep 3rd 2023 2:51 am

Re: Spains drying up
 

Originally Posted by growinspain (Post 13213306)
our trees are loaded this year..... They do get a drip of water 3-4 days a week though.... A lot of water here outside of Gandia

Jaen province has been suffering where I am. Hottest April for a long, long time and - "Thousands of inhabitants in the Andalusian city of Jaen even went so far as to organise an “El Abuelo" procession to beg for rain on May 1, bringing out their Christ statue to reinforce their prayers. It was the first time the statue had been brought out of the church basement since 1949."

philat98 Sep 3rd 2023 4:06 am

Re: Spains drying up
 

Originally Posted by Mark604 (Post 13213295)
I can echo the above in that all the olive trees around us have virtually nothing on them.

My olive trees in central Italy have no fruit this year. A cold and wet May followed by a boiling July. The oil price is very high and the potential harvest is terrble. That's farming.

Barriej Sep 3rd 2023 4:59 am

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Originally Posted by growinspain (Post 13213323)
i am pretty sure it is the worlds largest producer of olive oil and has been for a while now..

Yep around 70% of the worlds Olives and Oil is produced here....
However much of it is for export....

growinspain Sep 5th 2023 6:13 am

Re: Spains drying up
 
the "Dana" did not do much...

https://www.levante-emv.com/medio-am...-91739980.html

https://estaticos-cdn.prensaiberica...._default_0.jpg

growinspain Sep 5th 2023 6:15 am

Re: Spains drying up
 
time to start building canals or pipelines from the North to the South maybe...

Casa Santo Estevo Sep 5th 2023 6:56 am

Re: Spains drying up
 

Originally Posted by growinspain (Post 13213790)

It is a great illustration of misrepresentative information. How many of those reservoirs are not for water supply rather that are for hydro electric purposes?

It also takes time for surface run-off to flow down pipes or through the the ground to reach the water courses . It is not going to happen over night. There are numerous factors, relating to Meteorological and physical characteristics which affecting run-off.

Casa Santo Estevo Sep 5th 2023 7:00 am

Re: Spains drying up
 

Originally Posted by growinspain (Post 13213792)
time to start building canals or pipelines from the North to the South maybe...

Please tell us how you would over come the political issues, The environmental issues and the energy cost issues associated with just one scheme let alone the multitude of them required to service the south.

growinspain Sep 5th 2023 7:07 am

Re: Spains drying up
 

Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo (Post 13213812)
Please tell us how you would over come the political issues, The environmental issues and the energy cost issues associated with just one scheme let alone the multitude of them required to service the south.

Yeah, I forgot this is a country bordering on 3rd world status..

But, it would be less costly than building desalination plants along the coasts.

scrubbedexpat147 Sep 5th 2023 7:30 am

Re: Spains drying up
 
There’s been hardly any rain in the mountains of Tarragona. People have never known it like this before

olivefarmer Sep 5th 2023 8:19 am

Re: Spains drying up
 

Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo (Post 13213812)
Please tell us how you would over come the political issues, The environmental issues and the energy cost issues associated with just one scheme let alone the multitude of them required to service the south.

The EU has just podded out 70 billion of our money to Spain for regeneration. Where is that going? The solar farm mafia?

The water situation needs a Victorian engineering approach. Pipelines, proper admin, desalination plants ,tourist tax, increase in water rates, charge for using illegal wells………..

The Rules dam doesn't even have water take off apparently.


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