Fred James

I'm not sure it would be classed as fraud unless you gained some financial advantage from it, but it would definitely be against the law.

If you lived here and didn't pay your income tax or at least make a zero tax declaration that would also be unlawful.

However, under EU law, even if you don't register under the 90 day rule it seems that there is little they can do about it.

If you live here and don't register that you will not have the magic registration document that opens the door to other services but if you don't need them then you can probably get away with it forever, apart from the tax, assuming they can be bothered to chase you.

HBG

Tax questions are difficult anywhere, especially in Spain at this time. What some posters seem to assume is that expats who don't pay tax in Spain don't pay tax anywhere. All of the ones I know pay tax in England and are registered to do so.

I really don't know why some, especially recently arrived expats, seem adamant to get their fellow expats into trouble. Why don't they join one of the many self-help organisations all over expat land. I belong to several and get a great deal of satisfaction from helping others.

Fred James

We are drifting off topic here. Much as I like to discuss tax issues it's time to get back to the new traffic laws.

del.Almendro

DVLA will cease to issue paper tax discs from 1st October this year. From that date there will be no requirement to display a tax disc, even if you have one that has several months left on it.

Car tax will still have to be paid but will be recorded electronically only. This will become more like the Spanish system whereby Spanish registered vehicle owners pay car tax to their local authority but are not issued with anything to display.

It will thus become harder to identify illegally used UK vehicles in Spain. Personally I like being able to display a current UK tax disc when visiting Spain in my legal UK registered car. In future I might be wrongly suspected of driving illegally in Spain because there will be no tax disc to suggest otherwise.

jackytoo

Good point. Everyone goes on about Brit cars in their area but many just winter over there. I know a few who do.

jo-ann

With the new laws are the camera detectors on Tom Tom now illegal or not

lyric030250

Tom Tom does not DETECT radar it just announces the position of reported sites.

bobd22

Also the speed warning should not breach Spanish law as it is not a radar detector, merely warns re speed limits via GPS speed.

Casa Santo Estevo

I read that some of you wonder why some cars from other countries do not get pulled over.
The Dutch can have an APK (their equivalent to ITV/MOT) done here in Spain:
Link in Dutch from A Dutch government website.
Basic translation into English" The trial is a response to requests from Dutch who over-winter or have a second home (in Spain). For companies and individuals who have a vehicle that does not return (to The Netherlands) annually, this means a reduction of charges. It is no longer necessary to drive to the annual APK or pay fines for failing to meet the APK requirement.
There is another arrangement for the Dutch cars in Belgium. It is hoped that after a review period it maybe that the Dutch will be able to have their cars tested in all European countries.

jackytoo

New laws in English

http://elpais.com/elpais/2014/03/21/...59_504010.html

andyrich666

5. Alcohol and drug tests for pedestrians. Pedestrians caught violating a traffic regulation – by crossing the road at the wrong place, for instance – will be obliged to submit to a drug and alcohol test. Until now, this was only the case if they were involved in an accident.

It does not say what happens once such test has been submitted ?

Neptuno

Those little black widows who meander across the road and never look to see if anything is coming had better watch out!