Someone doesn't like the AVE
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Re: Someone doesn't like the AVE
No, because while you wait for the economy to improve and the number of jobs to increase then people will die, who shouldnt have
And a whole generation will miss out on an education
You have your piorities completely wrong
Anyway, it is not a case of a good health system OR growing the economy. That isnt the choice. You sound like you've been brainwashed by evil neo-liberal free market devil worshippers!
And a whole generation will miss out on an education
You have your piorities completely wrong
Anyway, it is not a case of a good health system OR growing the economy. That isnt the choice. You sound like you've been brainwashed by evil neo-liberal free market devil worshippers!
But just out of curiosity, if the entire nation is unemployed, who is going to pay for all of that?
Sorry, I forgot... EU bailouts of course! Why not? We're "entitled".
Carry on.
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Re: Someone doesn't like the AVE
No, because while you wait for the economy to improve and the number of jobs to increase then people will die, who shouldnt have
And a whole generation will miss out on an education
You have your piorities completely wrong
Anyway, it is not a case of a good health system OR growing the economy. That isnt the choice. You sound like you've been brainwashed by evil neo-liberal free market devil worshippers!
And a whole generation will miss out on an education
You have your piorities completely wrong
Anyway, it is not a case of a good health system OR growing the economy. That isnt the choice. You sound like you've been brainwashed by evil neo-liberal free market devil worshippers!
there is no "waiting for the economy to improve"
you have to have go out there and improve it, by any means necessary
if Spain was your business and orders/customers fell off drastically what would you do - sit back and wait for it to improve, making a few people redundant, or become proactive and find ways of improving it, find new markets, find new customers, find new products, change the colour of your existing products, clean the windows in your high street shop, rearrange the window dressing, stop people in the street............
now multiply times 1million and thats the size of the problem or answer dependent on your viewpoint.
countries are just a larger version of companies - each is a kiddies top, if you keep on pumping it regularly it doesnt go all wobbly, if you get it right it hums, if you get it wrong it falls over and the children cry.
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Re: Someone doesn't like the AVE
Unemployment benefit is a tiny proportion of national spending, especially in Spain, just a couple of percent
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sorry for once must disagree CM
there is no "waiting for the economy to improve"
you have to have go out there and improve it, by any means necessary
if Spain was your business and orders/customers fell off drastically what would you do - sit back and wait for it to improve, making a few people redundant, or become proactive and find ways of improving it, find new markets, find new customers, find new products, change the colour of your existing products, clean the windows in your high street shop, rearrange the window dressing, stop people in the street............
now multiply times 1million and thats the size of the problem or answer dependent on your viewpoint.
countries are just a larger version of companies - each is a kiddies top, if you keep on pumping it regularly it doesnt go all wobbly, if you get it right it hums, if you get it wrong it falls over and the children cry.
there is no "waiting for the economy to improve"
you have to have go out there and improve it, by any means necessary
if Spain was your business and orders/customers fell off drastically what would you do - sit back and wait for it to improve, making a few people redundant, or become proactive and find ways of improving it, find new markets, find new customers, find new products, change the colour of your existing products, clean the windows in your high street shop, rearrange the window dressing, stop people in the street............
now multiply times 1million and thats the size of the problem or answer dependent on your viewpoint.
countries are just a larger version of companies - each is a kiddies top, if you keep on pumping it regularly it doesnt go all wobbly, if you get it right it hums, if you get it wrong it falls over and the children cry.
You're being pedantic and teaching your granny to suck eggs
Btw, you should tell this to Brussels and Merkel who have impossed such strict spending cuts on Spain without allowing a budget to actually help improve the economy
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Re: Someone doesn't like the AVE
I get what you are saying even if nobody else does, and some even confuse benefits with perks, what can you say............
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Re: Someone doesn't like the AVE
Tax pays for whatever benefits the population is legally entitled to. Particularly the ones you seem to feel should be prioritised over job creation.
You have ten fingers. Figure it out, Einstein.
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Well Brits not trying to wriggle out of paying Spanish IHT would be of help then wouldnt it........every grain of sand and all that.
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Re: Someone doesn't like the AVE
But apparently more spending on social programs will get us out of this, not creating jobs which facilitate tax revenues from the bulk of the population.
Just look at how well it's worked so far. We are, after all, still the envy of the world. We are #1 in everything, and even the Germans are jealous of us (well, according to CMan, anyway) which is why they are trying to steal our prosperity from us. Well, them and the Americans, who obviously aim to steal all of our oil.
Right then.
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The government have announced huge cuts in health and education. That is what I am talking about. I would rather have the AVE building stopped than seen these cuts. 10,000 teachers are getting sacked for a start
I forget that some people havent a clue about what is going on in Spain
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Just look at how well it's worked so far. We are, after all, still the envy of the world. We are #1 in everything, and even the Germans are jealous of us (well, according to CMan, anyway) which is why they are trying to steal our prosperity from us. Well, them and the Americans, who obviously aim to steal all of our oil.
Right then.
Right then.
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Re: Someone doesn't like the AVE
The only way out is for Spain to leave the euro, would be back on it's feet in a couple of years...oh and dump all the costly projects that are taking place.
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You are obviously completely oblivious of what is going on in Spain at the moment
The government have announced huge cuts in health and education. That is what I am talking about. I would rather have the AVE building stopped than seen these cuts. 10,000 teachers are getting sacked for a start
I forget that some people havent a clue about what is going on in Spain
The government have announced huge cuts in health and education. That is what I am talking about. I would rather have the AVE building stopped than seen these cuts. 10,000 teachers are getting sacked for a start
I forget that some people havent a clue about what is going on in Spain
I don't see that rail engineers (or even sales reps overseas for Spanish rail companies) are any less or more worthy than Spanish teachers. Get rid of all those politicians first and their lackeys would be my priority - I know it's unlikely as we need Gallego language law enforcement officers, and overseers that force Barcelona businesses to print everything in Catalan, even if their customers are from overseas.
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Re: Someone doesn't like the AVE
You are obviously completely oblivious of what is going on in Spain at the moment
The government have announced huge cuts in health and education. That is what I am talking about. I would rather have the AVE building stopped than seen these cuts. 10,000 teachers are getting sacked for a start
I forget that some people havent a clue about what is going on in Spain
The government have announced huge cuts in health and education. That is what I am talking about. I would rather have the AVE building stopped than seen these cuts. 10,000 teachers are getting sacked for a start
I forget that some people havent a clue about what is going on in Spain
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Re: Someone doesn't like the AVE
Renfe, Feve y Adif suman pƩrdidas de 447 millones y una deuda de 20.730 millones.
Hay 52 trenes de media distancia con una ocupaciĆ³n media inferior al 15%.
Hay 52 trenes de media distancia con una ocupaciĆ³n media inferior al 15%.