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Don't know quite who to reply to here but I sometimes wonder how much smoking actually affects people (probably get crucified for this ) But My Mums friend smoked all his life, last I knew of him it was 80 Woodbines a day lived until he was ninety ,my great uncle did likewise and in the end smoked a pipe continuously until he died at 104( I wouldn't mind some of that)he never was ill and died peacefully in his armchair with his pipe in hand but the formers granddaughter died from cancer at 8 doesnt seem right does it .

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My old mum is 83 in May and smokes 30+ a day. Has,nt had a smoking related illness in her life. I,m hoping its a gene thing. My father stopped when he was 80 but the was because they could'nt afford the 2 of them smoking. He is now 85.

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Don't know if you do smoke (I dont ) but it sounds like we are advocates for pro smoking but it makes you wonder how bad it really is a few months ago a man who was considerably old (cant remember how old) said it was a contribution to longevity, caused a lot of contoversy at the time .

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You walk down any city street and have to breath in all the car exhaust fumes. I don't hear anyone demanding cars are banned.
Diesel smoke contains tiny particles that supposedly cause asthma. I don't hear anyone demanding that lorries and buses are banned.
Alcholol causes far more social problems that affect inocent people - particularly children. I don't hear anyone demanding alchohol be banned.
What about food colourings and additives? Peanut alergies? There are so many things that affect the health of unsuspecting and inocent people.

What's happenned with smoking in UK pubs? Dad now has to smoke at home in front of the kids whereas previously he could pop out to the pub to indulge his habit.


I don't smoke.

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:thumbsup::thumbup:

.....Fumes from power stations, pesticides in the air, purification additives in our drinking water... the list is endless and very little research has been done on the effects of these things. Interestingly, some research done on diesel fumes suggested it was extremely carcenogenic! Cigarettes were an easy target to create added revenue and to blame for the increase in cancer, heart disease etc.....

What also gets me is alot of bars have tables and chairs outside next to busy roads, fumes and dust blowing everywhere...


I totally agree with this quote, especially the alcohol bit. I used to work in the primary care NHS and it was a known fact that more damage was caused by alcohol, both social and health (and people exercising and horse riding) than by cigarettes

And no I dont smoke either!


Jo x

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I personally know only ONE bar which is non-smoking and that is in a non-smoking shopping centre. I also only know of one that has a non-smoking room and you have to go through the smoking area to get to it (no-one uses it anyway). And in the villages children are allowed in the bars too.

I live in a small mountain village, but there are larger villages and small towns nearby, as well as the coastal resorts about an hour away.


So no, in bars in rural areas at least, I don't think the smoking ban is very strictly adhered to.

I haven't smoked for twenty years.

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That is totally illegal and an example of how bar owners have completely misunderstood the law. There cannot, by law, be a non-smoking area - there can only be a smoking area. Sounds like there's no difference (as you can't have one without the other) but it is a crucial distinction.

In essence, every bar or restaurant with a public area of 100m2 is deemed a non-smoking establishment. They must then apply for a licence to have a smoking room. This room must NOT be near the public bar, must NOT be near the entry or exit to the establishment, must not be near the toilets, must have its own seperate ventilation system, and must not occupy more than 30% of total meterage of public area.

The reasoning is that toilets, entry and exit points and the bar area are open for all to use so in that case smoking can't be allowed there.

That said there are few places where this is adhered to. There are pockets throughout the country where the inspectors are sharper than other areas, so you tend to find that in one city, everywhere complies, but in another city a few miles down the road you may not find a single one.

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I really admire the Spaniards' common sense.

Who, in his/her right mind, wwould want to jepurdice their manufacturing industry because of bad science.

Think of the jobs saved, in the hygene products industry - shampoo, air-freshners, washing detergents etc, by ignoring the smoking ban.

The smoking ban has probably caused an increase in health care costs.

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In the marbella and banus areas I know of only one restaurant that has no smoking:blink:

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ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! What you know is LOADS of non smoking restaurants who DO NOT COMPLY with the law. A restaurant DOES NOT have to declare itself non-smoking - it is the other way around!!!! FFS!!!

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The only time you see the Guardia in our village is when they have visited one of the bars for a sol y sombre and a smoke.

Most of our bars are only small,it is only a small village, so they might all be exempt anyway.

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I think you should unsubscribe from this threat or you will have a breakdown ,your point is obviiously not getting through !!!

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I reckon it's the reason I'm so bald - constantly banging my head against a brick wall!!!!!!!!

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Spain has a law, introduced by the Spanish Socialist Workers' Party, which came into force at the start of 2006 and bans smoking in workplaces. It has some restrictions for public spaces, such as airports and train stations, but pubs, restaurants, and other public places smaller than 100 m² are exempted.

i know at work we ban from smoking due all the computers and equipment so we sent to the roof where smell the vapours from the aircraft land down the road

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You are mixing your laws. Smoking in the workplace is banned full stop. Meterage doesn't come into it. As a customer, you can smoke in places of less than 100m2 of PUBLIC USAGE - in other words, the behind-bar, kitchen and storage area do not count. Any place over that size is non-smoking unless they have applied, and complied with the conditions, for a smoking room