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Chiclanagir Aug 11th 2009 10:03 pm

Sky - Applying Online
 
I want to end my subscription with whoever is the supplier of my illegal card here in Spain and join Sky by giving a UK address and UK bank details. If I try to do this online which they realise I have a Telefonica online account?

Fred James Aug 11th 2009 11:03 pm

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Originally Posted by Chiclanagir (Post 7835524)
I want to end my subscription with whoever is the supplier of my illegal card here in Spain and join Sky by giving a UK address and UK bank details. If I try to do this online which they realise I have a Telefonica online account?

They will certainly be able to tell that your are using a Spanish ISP but I doubt that they would bother. Anyway, you could be quite legitimately apply from your holiday home in Spain for an address in the UK.

Contrary to what some would have you believe, Sky do not waste their time trying to turn customers away. If you phone them and ask to activate your card in Spain that's a different matter - but surely anyone who did that deserves to be cut off!

Mitzyboy Aug 11th 2009 11:11 pm

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Originally Posted by Chiclanagir (Post 7835524)
I want to end my subscription with whoever is the supplier of my illegal card here in Spain and join Sky by giving a UK address and UK bank details. If I try to do this online which they realise I have a Telefonica online account?

Why not call them, using SKYPE or something like that

Chiclanagir Aug 11th 2009 11:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Mitzyboy (Post 7835712)
Why not call them, using SKYPE or something like that

Mitzyboy - I know it is stupid but I feel so guilty that I am sure I will slip up or something on the phone. For example when they ask for a landline and I say I haven´t got one! Whereas if I do it online the guilt won´t show!

Tele Addict Aug 11th 2009 11:42 pm

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Originally Posted by Chiclanagir (Post 7835740)
Mitzyboy - I know it is stupid but I feel so guilty that I am sure I will slip up or something on the phone. For example when they ask for a landline and I say I haven´t got one! Whereas if I do it online the guilt won´t show!

Why don't you call them and just ask that they change the address on your account. No need to cancel anything. If they ask for a phone number just say you haven't had it installed yet, and since your contract is non-subscribed, or more than 12 months old it doesn't need a phone line anyway.

shaggymon Aug 11th 2009 11:48 pm

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Originally Posted by Tele Addict (Post 7835820)
Why don't you call them and just ask that they change the address on your account. No need to cancel anything. If they ask for a phone number just say you haven't had it installed yet, and since your contract is non-subscribed, or more than 12 months old it doesn't need a phone line anyway.

They will prob ask for current address, which of course the dodgy dealer will have but the OP prob will not.

The Guy Aug 11th 2009 11:50 pm

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Originally Posted by Tele Addict (Post 7835820)
Why don't you call them and just ask that they change the address on your account. No need to cancel anything. If they ask for a phone number just say you haven't had it installed yet, and since your contract is non-subscribed, or more than 12 months old it doesn't need a phone line anyway.

she may not be able to do this as sky tend to ask for the exisitng address for the card - and if they got it from an agent / installer, then the agent / installer will probably have used one of thier own addresses and not the clients address...

EsuriJohn Aug 11th 2009 11:54 pm

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Originally Posted by Tele Addict (Post 7835820)
Why don't you call them and just ask that they change the address on your account. No need to cancel anything. If they ask for a phone number just say you haven't had it installed yet, and since your contract is non-subscribed, or more than 12 months old it doesn't need a phone line anyway.

We have just done that from one UK address to another (just outside the 12 month must be connected window) and when they asked for the new landline No I said we were not having one installed and gave them my mobile No which they did not have but were very happy to accept and it starts with 0044 so I can use from Spain.

Tele Addict Aug 12th 2009 12:04 am

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Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 7835847)
she may not be able to do this as sky tend to ask for the exisitng address for the card

I always advise my clients to avoid this type of service, due to the expense, amongst other things. Here's an example of one:

Our charge of £299 is for the supply of the card, use of the UK/Irish address, completing the Sky contracts on your behalf, activation of the card and 12 months support should you need it. Sky will then charge you directly by direct debit on your credit card for your chosen package on a monthly basis. All subscriptions are for a minimum 1 year period and subject to an annual renewal fee (160 euro) if subscribing again. The fee is automatically charged after each 12 months.

missbad Aug 12th 2009 12:09 am

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Hi

When renting a house in Spain and they say the property has skytv, does that mean they have the card or would i have to bring mine from home?

Tele Addict Aug 12th 2009 12:11 am

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Originally Posted by missbad (Post 7835876)
Hi

When renting a house in Spain and they say the property has skytv, does that mean they have the card or would i have to bring mine from home?

Who knows. A lot of English people here use Sky TV and satellite TV as synonyms. You need to check with the owner.

Chiclanagir Aug 12th 2009 12:15 am

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I will be cancelling the card from the dodgy supplier and applying for a new one from Sky direct but to use in our existing sky plus box.

Fredbargate Aug 12th 2009 12:45 am

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I phoned Sky last week using a UK mobile as my TV was asking to insert the NEW CARD which we do not have. The card was registered at my mother in laws house and she died five years ago.
I explained that we had moved a few years ago and failed to inform them.
They have extended my old card and changed the region on it. We now get BBC 1 central / east instead of north east. We are still waiting for the replacement card to be sent to the new address I gave and of course it will have to be forwarded out here.

Dick Dasterdly Aug 12th 2009 4:57 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 7835974)
I phoned Sky last week using a UK mobile as my TV was asking to insert the NEW CARD which we do not have. The card was registered at my mother in laws house and she died five years ago.
I explained that we had moved a few years ago and failed to inform them.
They have extended my old card and changed the region on it. We now get BBC 1 central / east instead of north east. We are still waiting for the replacement card to be sent to the new address I gave and of course it will have to be forwarded out here.


So I take it that its fairly safe to phone Sky from Spain using a UK mobile?

Is it necessary to make a call to them to activate the replacement card?

missbad Aug 12th 2009 5:03 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 7836694)
So I take it that its fairly safe to phone Sky from Spain using a UK mobile?

Is it necessary to make a call to them to activate the replacement card?

Hi

Ive just got our new replacement card and have not had to activate it. you just pop it in.

Fredbargate Aug 12th 2009 6:20 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 7836694)
So I take it that its fairly safe to phone Sky from Spain using a UK mobile?

I believe so, but will update this post when the card arrives

Solarwhizz Aug 12th 2009 7:39 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 7836956)
I believe so, but will update this post when the card arrives

I tried to apply on line using my UK address, but when i went through the process it only allowed me to take out a subscription if I went for one of the SKY contract offers, which meant I had to have a phone line connected for 12 months,
So I reverted to phoning SKY using Voip stunt Phone to Phone, set it all up by phone, and told them I didnt have to have a phone line and that I them I didnt want a landline, use only mobiles and use the Voip system on my Mobile laptop for international etc, They had no problem with this.
They then informed me I needed a manual activation of the card, which would cost me £25 extra, set the account up on my UK bank and the card arrived three days later at my UK address, was forwarded over to me in SPain and I duly activated using Voip,

So to answer ur question, can you process SKY online in Spain, NO it would appear not!,,, as you will need a UK landline!!!.

Chiclanagir Aug 14th 2009 11:33 pm

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If my sky plus box in Spain is still connected to the skycard via the illegal broadcaster and I then phone Sky from the UK saying that I had purchased this box on ebay for example and wanted a contract using this box. Would I have a problem?

Solarwhizz Aug 15th 2009 12:04 am

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Originally Posted by Chiclanagir (Post 7845332)
If my sky plus box in Spain is still connected to the skycard via the illegal broadcaster and I then phone Sky from the UK saying that I had purchased this box on ebay for example and wanted a contract using this box. Would I have a problem?

Providing you can register the contract to a UK address that currently has not got a Sky contract, and they can send the card to it, you have a UK bank account that they can DD, the SKY box does not have a current contract registered to it, and when you activate you do so through either a UK mobile or Caller ID off phone, and take reasonable care in conversation with them you should be ok, Key is not to admit you are outside of UK reception zone. I would think your chances are good based upon my experience.:thumbsup:

Chiclanagir Aug 15th 2009 12:30 am

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Originally Posted by Solarwhizz (Post 7845407)
Providing you can register the contract to a UK address that currently has not got a Sky contract, and they can send the card to it, you have a UK bank account that they can DD, the SKY box does not have a current contract registered to it, and when you activate you do so through either a UK mobile or Caller ID off phone, and take reasonable care in conversation with them you should be ok, Key is not to admit you are outside of UK reception zone. I would think your chances are good based upon my experience.:thumbsup:

Solarwhizz I am receiving skyplus here in Spain through a skyplus box and an "illegal" card. If I phone up sky and say I want a contract to my UK address using this skyplus box - will they check the box number and say, "sorry no can do as it is already connected elsewhere"? Other than that I do have a UK address and a UK bank account.

The Guy Aug 15th 2009 4:24 am

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it should not be a problem....as you can (at the moment) actually have a few cards paired to one box!...although you cannot have one cards paired to many boxes.

and would have thought that if you are using an "blue yellow house" card then it may be best to cancel the DD for this card as otherwsie you may be paying for a card that you dont have.

Chiclanagir Aug 15th 2009 5:20 am

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Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 7845868)
it should not be a problem....as you can (at the moment) actually have a few cards paired to one box!...although you cannot have one cards paired to many boxes.

and would have thought that if you are using an "blue yellow house" card then it may be best to cancel the DD for this card as otherwsie you may be paying for a card that you dont have.

I was going to cancel the DD anyway but he most likely won´t realise until the next payment is due and I am going back to the UK in 10 days and will try to sort out the Sky contract then.

Dick Dasterdly Aug 15th 2009 8:43 am

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Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 7845868)
it should not be a problem....as you can (at the moment) actually have a few cards paired to one box!..

Maybe a silly question, but why have a few cards paired to one box?

The Guy Aug 15th 2009 9:41 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 7846249)
Maybe a silly question, but why have a few cards paired to one box?

shhhh. It helps when you can activate a few in one box and pass them onto people who want to use them in sky card reading non sky receivers.....

Tele Addict Aug 15th 2009 10:10 am

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Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 7846419)
use them in sky card reading non sky receivers.....

The only thing I miss about the Digibox is the EPG. I love my third party box. Very family friendly. It's a combo, TDT and satellite all in one box which reads the Sky card and the Al Jazeera Sports card which lets us watch Champion's League, La Liga, Italian premiere, etc.

The Guy Aug 15th 2009 10:29 am

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Originally Posted by Tele Addict (Post 7846479)
The only thing I miss about the Digibox is the EPG.

unfotunatley that is a big issue with "generic" receivers
although some "geeks" have managed to a degree write software for some generics that take the data and are able to reproduce some of the EPG data from many satellite operators.....
unfortunatly the size of the software compromised the memoy space in the boxes and reduces the number of channels a box can store.....but then who wants to store 5000 arabic text channels in their digibox anyway...

scampicat Aug 16th 2009 2:25 am

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I know this is probably a stupid and very basic question.... but I actually have a perfectly legal UK address (have been staying in it since the beginning of June) which has a cable landline phone (the bill has my husband's name on it)...if I had a SKY installation at this address,(using a UK Bank account) could I then take the box and card with me to Spain and use it ?

And would it or would it not be legal?

Steve A Aug 16th 2009 2:51 am

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Hi

I would cancel your current subscription first as this may take some time.
I had the same problem as I had a Doner card from a supplier, but did not know the name and address of the Doner. Although the DD was taken from my Egg card this proved to be a lengthy process to cancel as Egg would not just stop payment. Also sky does not have a direct telephone line for cancellation it must be done in writing this can further delay the process. In the End I told Egg that I tried on numerous occasions to contact Sky, but to no avail. They eventually cancel the DD and rebated some of the previous months.


regards,

The Guy Aug 16th 2009 4:39 am

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Originally Posted by scampicat (Post 7848046)
I know this is probably a stupid and very basic question.... but I actually have a perfectly legal UK address (have been staying in it since the beginning of June) which has a cable landline phone (the bill has my husband's name on it)...if I had a SKY installation at this address,(using a UK Bank account) could I then take the box and card with me to Spain and use it ??

In theory yes.
But the terms and conditions of a discounted Sky installation in the UK require all discounted receivers to be connected to a UK phone line for the 1st 12 months of your sky contract - lifetime for a multiroom contract - tries to stop you running off with their box that they still own!
However, Sky do not really tend to police the nbasic installation as much as they do with the multiroom installation. Although this may well change (you never know)

Setting up a sky account before you move is the best way


Originally Posted by scampicat (Post 7848046)
And would it or would it not be legal?

You would be breaking the terms and conditions of your sky contract - a civil not common law issue.
Whether or not you can be done for fraud, by claiming you card is at a UK address and it is not is another matter....


Also sky does not have a direct telephone line for cancellation it must be done in writing this can further delay the process.
You can cancel Sky over the phone with no problems - just call Sky Customer Services...!
Sometimes if you just cancell the DD at the bank and not via Sky then your address and bank details can be blacklisted as being a nonpayer.
It was setanta that required you to write in to cancel...and they mysteriously "lost" a lot of cancellation letters!

Steve A Aug 16th 2009 6:45 am

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Hi

I am only stating what I had to do. I had no details on the cards original owners I just paid a broker who is no longer around, that Is why I could not cancel over the phone as they had no record of the transaction or that is what they said.

Regards,

Chiclanagir Aug 16th 2009 6:56 am

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Originally Posted by Steve A (Post 7848418)
Hi

I am only stating what I had to do. I had no details on the cards original owners I just paid a broker who is no longer around, that Is why I could not cancel over the phone as they had no record of the transaction or that is what they said.

Regards,

Same as me, hence original question.

Steve A Aug 16th 2009 7:00 am

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Hi

Get in touch with your credit card company if by DD and get them to sent you a declaration form if they will not cancel over the phone, good luck

regards

Tele Addict Aug 16th 2009 7:03 am

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If you have a UK address just ask for a card, not an install.

Dick Dasterdly Aug 16th 2009 8:07 am

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Originally Posted by The Guy (Post 7846419)
shhhh. It helps when you can activate a few in one box and pass them onto people who want to use them in sky card reading non sky receivers.....

So I take it that the Sky cards as they are sent out are all identical and not matched to one specific box until such time as they are activated?

The Guy Aug 16th 2009 8:43 am

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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 7848586)
So I take it that the Sky cards as they are sent out are all identical and not matched to one specific box until such time as they are activated?

Correct.

But if you order one you normally have to give them the sky box details when you order one so they have the details ready in the system for phone line activation....

The new white cards that are being sent out to replace you old blue yellow house subscription cards are already tied to your specific boxes - they cannot be activated in any other box unless you have a very long call with sky customer services.


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