shoot my dog?? surely not
Jun 7th 2010, 6:45 pm
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shoot my dog?? surely not
I have 4 dogs, all but one are docile,the other one is the resident guard dog although hes very soft and well behaved until somebody comes to our gate.
A man put his hand in the gate to gain access whilst i wasnt there to give the command "leave" and my dog bit his hand!
It wasnt a nasty bite...just enough to ward him off, and as i see it, he was just doing his job.
I have since been informed that should this happen, the man was within his rights to bring the police up to my house to shoot the dog!
He isnt a dangerous breed, but he is protective of the house and is chipped etc, so surely this is utter nonsense.
A man put his hand in the gate to gain access whilst i wasnt there to give the command "leave" and my dog bit his hand!
It wasnt a nasty bite...just enough to ward him off, and as i see it, he was just doing his job.
I have since been informed that should this happen, the man was within his rights to bring the police up to my house to shoot the dog!
He isnt a dangerous breed, but he is protective of the house and is chipped etc, so surely this is utter nonsense.
Jun 7th 2010, 7:10 pm
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Re: shoot my dog?? surely not
as a self-confessed dog lover from way back,I would hate for my dog to be threatened with violence,either from the plod or neighbours. I must admit to inspecting our terrace,very very carefuly,before I let him out first thing cos we have gypsies at the back of us,and altho' we have never had any problems with them,discretion rules here....
In your case,perhaps a nice big sign on the front wall or gate,in spanish and english,saying "beware of dog" or similar? Your dog is only protecting his area and you. Not his fault.
In your case,perhaps a nice big sign on the front wall or gate,in spanish and english,saying "beware of dog" or similar? Your dog is only protecting his area and you. Not his fault.
Jun 7th 2010, 8:03 pm
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thats what i thought! i do have a sign on the gate post saying dangerous dog and its in spanish, but i was just wondering how i stood with regards to the law.
i do have insurance should any of my dogs bite anybody so i thought i had covered every aspect.
maybe the person telling me all this was scare mongering.
i do have insurance should any of my dogs bite anybody so i thought i had covered every aspect.
maybe the person telling me all this was scare mongering.
Jun 7th 2010, 8:48 pm
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contrast this...my sister went to singapore in the early 60's to marry my best mate(we were in the navy together).
they got a house in a kampong,which is a village of mainly english forces houses way outside the nearest village. the house came with two dogs,and their duty was to allow no chinese through the gate. none at all. day one and the local grocery delivery,the delivery fella knew my sis was new and tried it on by coming through the gate. my sis was sitting on the porch looking at him as he approached,then sicced the dogs on him. brutal perhaps but some english wives had been attacked and one of them raped that week.
dogs are territorial,they protect their area and that includes the rest of the pack which includes you. be grateful you have a dog which knows his responsibilities but always be aware, if you can,of whoever is coming to your house.
good luck.
they got a house in a kampong,which is a village of mainly english forces houses way outside the nearest village. the house came with two dogs,and their duty was to allow no chinese through the gate. none at all. day one and the local grocery delivery,the delivery fella knew my sis was new and tried it on by coming through the gate. my sis was sitting on the porch looking at him as he approached,then sicced the dogs on him. brutal perhaps but some english wives had been attacked and one of them raped that week.
dogs are territorial,they protect their area and that includes the rest of the pack which includes you. be grateful you have a dog which knows his responsibilities but always be aware, if you can,of whoever is coming to your house.
good luck.
Jun 8th 2010, 11:32 am
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I have 4 dogs, all but one are docile,the other one is the resident guard dog although hes very soft and well behaved until somebody comes to our gate.
A man put his hand in the gate to gain access whilst i wasnt there to give the command "leave" and my dog bit his hand!
It wasnt a nasty bite...just enough to ward him off, and as i see it, he was just doing his job.
I have since been informed that should this happen, the man was within his rights to bring the police up to my house to shoot the dog!
He isnt a dangerous breed, but he is protective of the house and is chipped etc, so surely this is utter nonsense.
A man put his hand in the gate to gain access whilst i wasnt there to give the command "leave" and my dog bit his hand!
It wasnt a nasty bite...just enough to ward him off, and as i see it, he was just doing his job.
I have since been informed that should this happen, the man was within his rights to bring the police up to my house to shoot the dog!
He isnt a dangerous breed, but he is protective of the house and is chipped etc, so surely this is utter nonsense.
Jun 8th 2010, 12:00 pm
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If someone comes onto your property uninvited, it is ridiculous that should an animal protecting your property and person then bite the said uninvited person, it seems so unfair and wrong that they can then destroy it. 
If you have told them that they are there, you have a gate to retain the animal and they still choose to enter it is their problem. What on earth are we supposed to do, open our doors and invite all and sundry to help them selves to everything and say it is ok, at least the dog has not bittten anyone, some laws and quirks are stupid in what ever country you live in.
Any dog how ever small can react differently when faced with a stranger, yes I accept that an owner has a reasonable care of duty to visitors but not when they are uninvited, a dog is a deterrent as is a gate and front door and should be treated as such. It should be dog lives here, enter at own risk.
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If you have told them that they are there, you have a gate to retain the animal and they still choose to enter it is their problem. What on earth are we supposed to do, open our doors and invite all and sundry to help them selves to everything and say it is ok, at least the dog has not bittten anyone, some laws and quirks are stupid in what ever country you live in.
Any dog how ever small can react differently when faced with a stranger, yes I accept that an owner has a reasonable care of duty to visitors but not when they are uninvited, a dog is a deterrent as is a gate and front door and should be treated as such. It should be dog lives here, enter at own risk.
Good luck
Jun 8th 2010, 12:07 pm
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agree with everything u say, but every country has its own laws, and im not very "up" on the dog one here in spain
its a bit like that story in UK of the farmer who shot an intruder who had entered his house UNINVITED, and the farmer was in the wrong and did time for it!!
i know in UK the law can sometimes be an ass, but im still not sure as to where i stand with my dog who incidently isnt dangerous in my eyes, hes just doing his job! hes perfectly alright with anybody i let into the gate.
its a bit like that story in UK of the farmer who shot an intruder who had entered his house UNINVITED, and the farmer was in the wrong and did time for it!!
i know in UK the law can sometimes be an ass, but im still not sure as to where i stand with my dog who incidently isnt dangerous in my eyes, hes just doing his job! hes perfectly alright with anybody i let into the gate.
Jun 9th 2010, 12:57 pm
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Well that's going to count against you. That means you knowingly keeping a dangerous animal in a non secure area. Imagine a zoo trying to use such a defence after a lion had bitten off a small child's arm who put his hand through into an enclosure to stroke the animal. If there is a dangerous animal the enclosure needs to be secure. No question.
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Jun 9th 2010, 1:12 pm
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The intruder was an unarmed child. He was only on the grounds of the property, not inside. The child was being attacked by Tony Martin's (the farmer's) rottweilers and was attempting to escape. Meanwhile Martin fetch his pump action shotgun and while the boy, totally incapacitated, was shouting out how sorry he was for entering the property Martin unloaded the gun into his back.
Jun 9th 2010, 1:20 pm
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The intruder was an unarmed child. He was only on the grounds of the property, not inside. The child was being attacked by Tony Martin's (the farmer's) rottweilers and was attempting to escape. Meanwhile Martin fetch his pump action shotgun and while the boy, totally incapacitated, was shouting out how sorry he was for entering the property Martin unloaded the gun into his back.
The 'child' was a burglar (admitted by the other members of his possee) and the other 'children' who were his accomplices him were in their late 20s/early 30s.
Jun 9th 2010, 1:22 pm
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doesnt matter how u look at it! if the said "child" hadnt been there in the first place non of that would have happened!
just the same as the silly bugger who chose to put his hand in my gate regardless of the sign on the gate post warning him my dog bites!
just the same as the silly bugger who chose to put his hand in my gate regardless of the sign on the gate post warning him my dog bites!
Jun 9th 2010, 1:33 pm
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Its irisponsible keeping a dangerous animal in a place where it can come in contact with people visiting your house, invited or not, no doubt you will soon find this out in court.
Jun 9th 2010, 1:38 pm
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The intruder was an unarmed child. He was only on the grounds of the property, not inside. The child was being attacked by Tony Martin's (the farmer's) rottweilers and was attempting to escape. Meanwhile Martin fetch his pump action shotgun and while the boy, totally incapacitated, was shouting out how sorry he was for entering the property Martin unloaded the gun into his back.
The person who got bit when visting the poster had no ill intent as far as I know.
Jun 9th 2010, 1:40 pm
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but i dont consider the dog as dangerous!anybody CAN come to my gate with pleasure but if they are daft enough to try and put their hand in the gate having seen how he is and also after reading the warning sign then it can hardly be deemed my fault.
i am a responsible dog owner, iv had many dogs in my life, my garden is secure, the gate is locked, so who in their right mind is going to try and enter? would you?
i am a responsible dog owner, iv had many dogs in my life, my garden is secure, the gate is locked, so who in their right mind is going to try and enter? would you?
Jun 9th 2010, 1:46 pm
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but i dont consider the dog as dangerous!anybody CAN come to my gate with pleasure but if they are daft enough to try and put their hand in the gate having seen how he is and also after reading the warning sign then it can hardly be deemed my fault.
i am a responsible dog owner, iv had many dogs in my life, my garden is secure, the gate is locked, so who in their right mind is going to try and enter? would you?
i am a responsible dog owner, iv had many dogs in my life, my garden is secure, the gate is locked, so who in their right mind is going to try and enter? would you?
You may not consider the dog dangerous but I think the courts may have a different idea .If I was the meter man /police/delivery driver/lost looking for directions/needed assistance after an accident etc etc then yes, you may well have a sign but a good many over 50s here cant see or read!
