shocking statistics
#16
Re: shocking statistics
I think it's all relative.
I am a Service Desk Manager and earn 5,500 a month working remotely in Murcia.
I think it's just an issue of blue collar workers vs white collar vs white collar. Nothing new or shocking to be honest, the article is a bit blown out of proportion I feel.
If you're a junior you won't really get anything explosive, unless you're in a needed core profession, law, IT, health, banking.
We had a 16 year old join us on a 23,500E salary with a basic IT CCENT qualification, after 6 months of experience and completing the other half of the CCNA qualification, he is now on 30,650E, and it's only set to rise every qualification he gets on top of that.
I am a Service Desk Manager and earn 5,500 a month working remotely in Murcia.
I think it's just an issue of blue collar workers vs white collar vs white collar. Nothing new or shocking to be honest, the article is a bit blown out of proportion I feel.
If you're a junior you won't really get anything explosive, unless you're in a needed core profession, law, IT, health, banking.
We had a 16 year old join us on a 23,500E salary with a basic IT CCENT qualification, after 6 months of experience and completing the other half of the CCNA qualification, he is now on 30,650E, and it's only set to rise every qualification he gets on top of that.
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#17
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Re: shocking statistics
I think it's all relative.
I am a Service Desk Manager and earn 5,500 a month working remotely in Murcia.
I think it's just an issue of blue collar workers vs white collar vs white collar. Nothing new or shocking to be honest, the article is a bit blown out of proportion I feel.
If you're a junior you won't really get anything explosive, unless you're in a needed core profession, law, IT, health, banking.
We had a 16 year old join us on a 20,000E with a basic IT CCENT qualification, after 6 months of experience and completing the other half of the CCNA qualification, he is now on 26,000E, and it's only set to rise every qualification he gets on top of that.
I am a Service Desk Manager and earn 5,500 a month working remotely in Murcia.
I think it's just an issue of blue collar workers vs white collar vs white collar. Nothing new or shocking to be honest, the article is a bit blown out of proportion I feel.
If you're a junior you won't really get anything explosive, unless you're in a needed core profession, law, IT, health, banking.
We had a 16 year old join us on a 20,000E with a basic IT CCENT qualification, after 6 months of experience and completing the other half of the CCNA qualification, he is now on 26,000E, and it's only set to rise every qualification he gets on top of that.
#20
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Re: shocking statistics
That is very rare though and the reality is very different. If you're earning 5,500 a month as a Service Desk Manager, so 100K a year you belong to the top wealthiest percentage in Spain, or even in Europe. Even doctors & IT professionals in other European countries don't earn what you earn.
From his posts he is one of the people that think Spain is perfect and all Spaniards are super nice
#21
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Re: shocking statistics
Why would someone exaggerate on a forum? Having a six figure income isn't that crazy if you're smart and/or willing to work hard. I paid myself £107k last year and this year will be closer to £120k.
It does kill me when people earning £18k a year working in Paperchase think they can up sticks and move to another country for a better life. Madness, but this forum is full of them.
It does kill me when people earning £18k a year working in Paperchase think they can up sticks and move to another country for a better life. Madness, but this forum is full of them.
#22
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Re: shocking statistics
Why would someone exaggerate on a forum? Having a six figure income isn't that crazy if you're smart and/or willing to work hard. I paid myself £107k last year and this year will be closer to £120k.
It does kill me when people earning £18k a year working in Paperchase think they can up sticks and move to another country for a better life. Madness, but this forum is full of them.
It does kill me when people earning £18k a year working in Paperchase think they can up sticks and move to another country for a better life. Madness, but this forum is full of them.
#23
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Re: shocking statistics
Yes and it is very selfish to say something like that. A lot of people in Spain and other countries work hard and will never earn these amounts and to say they are not smart is horrible. The poster with 5,500€ was on 32k after overtime in London 2 years ago, so should know how it is and maybe also forgot to pay tax in Spain, or is extremely lucky.
#24
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Re: shocking statistics
so the guy supposedly taking home over 5,500 € a month in Murcia posted this exactly one year ago (January 2019)!
'I am a British citizen born and bred. I earn over £30,000 per annum (not including annual bonuses).'
I really don't understand why people exaggerate their salaries on public forums, do they think it makes them look MORE important than
the average worker
I'm not gonna comment at all on the 'Born and Bred' bit
'I am a British citizen born and bred. I earn over £30,000 per annum (not including annual bonuses).'
I really don't understand why people exaggerate their salaries on public forums, do they think it makes them look MORE important than
the average worker
I'm not gonna comment at all on the 'Born and Bred' bit
#25
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Re: shocking statistics
I wish i earned 5500 a month.. I'd even take the 32k.. Come to think of it, i would take half! I would be happy with 16k !!!
Ive worked 9 years in the same company, and never had a pay rise. This year, my hourly rate actually went down...
Ive worked 9 years in the same company, and never had a pay rise. This year, my hourly rate actually went down...
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#26
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Re: shocking statistics
I don't mean to sound rude but how do you survive earning less than €16k a year?
#27
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Re: shocking statistics
Sorry, I should have clarified that- why would anyone exaggerate their income on an expat forum? It's not a business forum, not a car enthusiast forum etc. where it can sometimes become a big **** contest.
#28
Re: shocking statistics
Yes and it is very selfish to say something like that. A lot of people in Spain and other countries work hard and will never earn these amounts and to say they are not smart is horrible. The poster with 5,500€ was on 32k after overtime in London 2 years ago, so should know how it is and maybe also forgot to pay tax in Spain, or is extremely lucky.
How am I in spain? My wife is battling cancer and due to these reasons I had to leave London to support her in Spain during her treatment. My company did not wish to let me go, so allowed me to work remotely. My then boss found his dream job and having worked alongside him for the last 6 years, and my company winning business in Spain with BBVA, I was in a good position to take his role and lead the support and refresh project in person. I think it’s as much luck to be right person in right place as it is who you know rather than what.
Along with bonuses and management incentives, thanks to Brexit and my now accountant my take home is €5500 a month.
im 40 years old and doing quite well in my career, if you want to professionally LinkIn with me just message.
London is quite unique in its salary offerings, my younger brother is a NEID (non exec independent director) for a private American legal firm in Mayfair and with overtime he takes home £15,000 a month. I still think this article is relative to what you do and where you do it. I’ve always pushed for pay rises and got them. If it’s not working for the article subject she should look further afield in my honest opinion.
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