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Re: Shock at racist Spanish!!
I saw that shirt before in Ayamonte. lol
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Re: Shock at racist Spanish!!
Fortaleza's comments are spot on IMHO.
Some random thoughts here, about what happened and if Spaniards are racists pigs. If Hamilton was not black, he would be still abused. Most F1 aficionados in Spain think that Ron Dennis took the piss of Alonso, McLaren didn't win a single race in 2006, they get Alonso to improve the car and then they forgot about him. I was reading in the Independent that Spain is the country on earth that has received more immigrants in the world (as percentage of population) in the last 5 years, and the attitudes of the locals were the most tolerant of the EU. We need PC, sure. Insuls like "maricon", are common. Same as "puff" in the UK. But gay couples can get marry or adopt, and most Spaniards don't bother at all. There are just three countries in the world were gays can adopt. This will take some years, the UK or France have been where we are now 40 years ago, and race discrimination still exist. More subtle, but of course it does exist. PC will arrive sooner rather thanlater. For good and for bad. Tabloids forums are opening topics like "Is Spain the most racist country in Europe?". The Sun. Funny, isn't it. So 4 blokes dress up in Carnival, and 10 morons insults Hamilton, then, Spain is racist. The Sun says. Jesus Christ. I am Spanish, but I don't feel the necesity to apologize. I am not a racist. Hooligans or Ibiza boys doesn't represent you, either. We have just to apologize for our actions, not for the ones somebody else does, even if his passport says that he shares your nationality. |
Re: Shock at racist Spanish!!
Originally Posted by Olmos
(Post 5895343)
I am Spanish, but I don't feel the necesity to apologize
I agree that part of all this is down to the terrible English press that sensationalise anything and can brand a whole nation as racist just because if one incident!! Bit like Brits and the football fan thugs going back a few years ... |
Re: Shock at racist Spanish!!
Originally Posted by Olmos
(Post 5895343)
Fortaleza's comments are spot on IMHO.
Some random thoughts here, about what happened and if Spaniards are racists pigs. If Hamilton was not black, he would be still abused. Most F1 aficionados in Spain think that Ron Dennis took the piss of Alonso, McLaren didn't win a single race in 2006, they get Alonso to improve the car and then they forgot about him. I was reading in the Independent that Spain is the country on earth that has received more immigrants in the world (as percentage of population) in the last 5 years, and the attitudes of the locals were the most tolerant of the EU. We need PC, sure. Insuls like "maricon", are common. Same as "puff" in the UK. But gay couples can get marry or adopt, and most Spaniards don't bother at all. There are just three countries in the world were gays can adopt. This will take some years, the UK or France have been where we are now 40 years ago, and race discrimination still exist. More subtle, but of course it does exist. PC will arrive sooner rather thanlater. For good and for bad. Tabloids forums are opening topics like "Is Spain the most racist country in Europe?". The Sun. Funny, isn't it. So 4 blokes dress up in Carnival, and 10 morons insults Hamilton, then, Spain is racist. The Sun says. Jesus Christ. I am Spanish, but I don't feel the necesity to apologize. I am not a racist. Hooligans or Ibiza boys doesn't represent you, either. We have just to apologize for our actions, not for the ones somebody else does, even if his passport says that he shares your nationality. Well said. |
Re: Shock at racist Spanish!!
There are bigoted pendejos in both countries. Fortunately there also exist charming people in both as well.
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I am probably a bit cynical myself, but I cannot stop thinking that Ecclestone is laughing all the way to the bank...F1 hasn't been this exciting since Senna and Prost...
...If I had Hamilton or Alonso wages I wouldn't mind a bit of abuse now and then, you know. Fortaleza, I was in Twickenham last weekend, I wish I were Welsh:thumbsup: |
Re: Shock at racist Spanish!!
Originally Posted by Olmos
(Post 5895680)
I am probably a bit cynical myself, but I cannot stop thinking that Ecclestone is laughing all the way to the bank...F1 hasn't been this exciting since Senna and Prost...
...If I had Hamilton or Alonso wages I wouldn't mind a bit of abuse now and then, you know. Fortaleza, I was in Twickenham last weekend, I wish I were Welsh:thumbsup: |
Re: Shock at racist Spanish!!
Originally Posted by Olmos
(Post 5895680)
I wish I were Welsh
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Re: Shock at racist Spanish!!
Originally Posted by XTreme
(Post 5895835)
Top Man! :thumbup:
You are Olmos, come on admit it. NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE wishes they were Welsh!!!!! |
Re: Shock at racist Spanish!!
Originally Posted by rugbymatt
(Post 5895856)
NO ONE, and I mean NO ONE wishes they were Welsh!!!!!
And seriously now, the most beautiful English I have heard in my life come from two Welsh actors: Anthony Hopkins and Richard Burton. And the best Spanish I have heard spoken by British folk come also from Welsh (I suppose they can make the j and rr sound). And the names: Gwyneth, Caernarfon, Llareggub:eek:. |
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It is possible that there are racists, in Spain and in many places, in the same way that there are foreigners that I don't know that they make in Europe, and that they are a true danger. This is also necessary to say it. For example, these of the picture (this is England, not Afganistan or Pakistan)
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...07_468x369.jpg http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Co...9p.hmedium.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/sparrowsfall...ope_cancer.jpg http://soerenkern.com/web/wp-content...m-europe-2.jpg http://www.korazym.org/images/ph_isl...e-world_gr.jpg It is possible that I in this forum I seems unfriendly, when I say on things that I don't share of the british to Spain. But it is not certain. And I believe that a lot of people has a mistaken idea of me. But I should also say that, so tolerant we are being in Europe, that we will already see if we have to pay a too excessive invoice in the future The British media should make a reflection on who is the true enemy before saying foolishness about Spain |
Re: Shock at racist Spanish!!
Originally Posted by Olmos
(Post 5896014)
You see we are not racist at all then:rofl:
And seriously now, the most beautiful English I have heard in my life come from two Welsh actors: Anthony Hopkins and Richard Burton. And the best Spanish I have heard spoken by British folk come also from Welsh (I suppose they can make the j and rr sound). And the names: Gwyneth, Caernarfon, Llareggub:eek:. |
Re: Shock at racist Spanish!!
Originally Posted by sonofspain1973
(Post 5896161)
It is possible that there are racists, in Spain and in many places, in the same way that there are foreigners that I don't know that they make in Europe, and that they are a true danger. This is also necessary to say it. For example, these of the picture (this is England, not Afganistan or Pakistan)
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...07_468x369.jpg http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Co...9p.hmedium.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/sparrowsfall...ope_cancer.jpg http://soerenkern.com/web/wp-content...m-europe-2.jpg http://www.korazym.org/images/ph_isl...e-world_gr.jpg It is possible that I in this forum I seems unfriendly, when I say on things that I don't share of the british to Spain. But it is not certain. And I believe that a lot of people has a mistaken idea of me. But I should also say that, so tolerant we are being in Europe, that we will already see if we have to pay a too excessive invoice in the future The British media should make a reflection on who is the true enemy before saying so many foolishness about Spain |
Re: Shock at racist Spanish!!
Originally Posted by XTreme
(Post 5896180)
The reason is that a lot of pronunciations in the Welsh language are the same as in Spanish. Certain sounds that don´t come naturally to English people are quite normal to us.
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Re: Shock at racist Spanish!!
I dunno....I reckon some of these guys have got a grievance you know...
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