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Setting up a Sydney Style Cafe in Gandia
Hi,
My wife and I are looking into opening a Sydney style cafe in Gandia, read opened Breakky, Almuerzo, Lunch and Afternoon tea, serving really good coffee and tea, doing sweet and savoury dishes inspired by our travels (we worked in Ireland, London, Spain, Australia, New Zealand) mostly sandwiches, salads, toast with goodies, pastries and cakes in the first time. Everything done in house as much as possible (inc. bread, cured meat/fish, pickles...). Anyway, the point is, we were wondering where to find data on who leaves in Gandia, as our main target would be high income residents, local or foreigners tired of eating the same traditional spanish food everyday, not necessarily well done. If anyone knows of small restaurant closing, let us know. Thanks. |
Re: Setting up a Sydney Style Cafe in Gandia
Originally Posted by ThomasRozant
(Post 12150851)
Hi,
My wife and I are looking into opening a Sydney style cafe in Gandia, read opened Breakky, Almuerzo, Lunch and Afternoon tea, serving really good coffee and tea, doing sweet and savoury dishes inspired by our travels (we worked in Ireland, London, Spain, Australia, New Zealand) mostly sandwiches, salads, toast with goodies, pastries and cakes in the first time. Everything done in house as much as possible (inc. bread, cured meat/fish, pickles...). Anyway, the point is, we were wondering where to find data on who leaves in Gandia, as our main target would be high income residents, local or foreigners tired of eating the same traditional spanish food everyday, not necessarily well done. If anyone knows of small restaurant closing, let us know. Thanks. You could maybe research here to see what people want and need. https://www.tripadvisor.ie/Restauran...n_Country.html You seem to have experience, so no need to tell you the problems you have in touristic places like Spain. |
Re: Setting up a Sydney Style Cafe in Gandia
Good luck with this all I can tell you is an Australian guy had a similar idea in Playa San Juan (Alicante) and his coffee was fabulous but it only lasted a year. Mind you his location was not great but people are not keen to pay premium prices (PSJ is a well off area) these days. Lots of research needed!
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Re: Setting up a Sydney Style Cafe in Gandia
Originally Posted by ThomasRozant
(Post 12150851)
Hi,
My wife and I are looking into opening a Sydney style cafe in Gandia, read opened Breakky, Almuerzo, Lunch and Afternoon tea, serving really good coffee and tea, doing sweet and savoury dishes inspired by our travels (we worked in Ireland, London, Spain, Australia, New Zealand) mostly sandwiches, salads, toast with goodies, pastries and cakes in the first time. Everything done in house as much as possible (inc. bread, cured meat/fish, pickles...). Anyway, the point is, we were wondering where to find data on who leaves in Gandia, as our main target would be high income residents, local or foreigners tired of eating the same traditional spanish food everyday, not necessarily well done. If anyone knows of small restaurant closing, let us know. Thanks. Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderator who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are usually friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge about the issues of living in Spain. I hope that you enjoy your time participating in the forums. Please let me know if you need any further help. Rosemary |
Re: Setting up a Sydney Style Cafe in Gandia
Do you mean the beach or city area and whereabouts in whichever of the two areas you are looking at?
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Re: Setting up a Sydney Style Cafe in Gandia
A variation in breakfasts would be nice but there's no way I'd pay Starbucks prices for coffee when about one euro will get me what I prefer in a normal place.
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Re: Setting up a Sydney Style Cafe in Gandia
Trouble is with Gandia...
open down on the beach, then you only have about 3 or 4 months when the area is busy. Non peak times and the area is very very quiet. Open in the city, and you will have people all the time, but note that parking is a pain, so not idea of "out of towners". Gandia is very Spanish, and not very "foreign touristy", so you may struggle with that group |
Re: Setting up a Sydney Style Cafe in Gandia
I would have thought that Denia/Javea would be a better area to consider due to number of ex-pats as this is the market your type of cafe may appeal to.
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Re: Setting up a Sydney Style Cafe in Gandia
Originally Posted by jonboy
(Post 12151191)
Do you mean the beach or city area and whereabouts in whichever of the two areas you are looking at?
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Re: Setting up a Sydney Style Cafe in Gandia
Originally Posted by Mark604
(Post 12151563)
A variation in breakfasts would be nice but there's no way I'd pay Starbucks prices for coffee when about one euro will get me what I prefer in a normal place.
Thanks for the feedback. |
Re: Setting up a Sydney Style Cafe in Gandia
Originally Posted by johnnyone
(Post 12151627)
I would have thought that Denia/Javea would be a better area to consider due to number of ex-pats as this is the market your type of cafe may appeal to.
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Re: Setting up a Sydney Style Cafe in Gandia
Originally Posted by The Guy
(Post 12151585)
Trouble is with Gandia...
open down on the beach, then you only have about 3 or 4 months when the area is busy. Non peak times and the area is very very quiet. Open in the city, and you will have people all the time, but note that parking is a pain, so not idea of "out of towners". Gandia is very Spanish, and not very "foreign touristy", so you may struggle with that group |
Re: Setting up a Sydney Style Cafe in Gandia
Originally Posted by ThomasRozant
(Post 12155116)
That's what I figured, I want to see if locals with higher income would be keen to spend a little extra for better quality in a nicer environment, most places I've seen have no charm and dont feel invinting.
I quite like the coffee served in local bars. I might be tempted away for an illy once in a while but not very often. The Spanish cafe bar ambience is also inviting to some/many, be they locals or visitors. You're competing not only on the basis of price, but also on custom. Some tourists and foreign residents prefer to sample what they see as an 'authentic' spanish experience. As for locals, it's a sweeping generalisation but spaniards tend to be quite conservative in terms of what/where they eat and drink. This is not to say your idea is a non-starter, just that you need to be wary of being over-optimistic about your potential market share. Good luck |
Re: Setting up a Sydney Style Cafe in Gandia
Don't listen to the plebs on here; they're about as negative and ill informed as it gets.
The most popular establishments (of the kind u are referencing) for the LOCALS in my town - a German bakery and a French cafe. If u have quality, the Spanish locals will buy it. They too, are tired of the cheap rubbish. |
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