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Ian1 Jun 21st 2014 2:03 pm

Sat Nav legal or not
 
Hi are sat navs that tell you that you are in a speed camera or mobile camera zone legal in Spain and France.

Or is it just special detectors that come into the new traffic laws

I am going on hol;iday to UK soon and I do not want to be caught out :eek:

cliff b Jun 21st 2014 2:25 pm

Re: Sat Nav legal or not
 
Illegal in France.

Fred James Jun 21st 2014 2:39 pm

Re: Sat Nav legal or not
 
Legal in Spain. It is radar detectors or jammers that are illegal.

Traffico publish the location of all their fixed radars on their website.

Ian1 Jun 21st 2014 2:49 pm

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Thanks Fred for your info much appreciated. Also appreciated for advice on UK Spanish plates :fingerscrossed:

Bri and Katee Jun 21st 2014 3:40 pm

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Sat navs are legal because they are letting you know you are entering an area where cameras may be. They MAY be there, not that they ARE there or even working!

Detectors are illegal because they actually warn you that a camera is there and that it is 'live' The detector has the ability to jam the microwaves that are used for measuring speed.

I do believe that Germany is actively seeking to ban even the warnings on a sat nav.

Fred James Jun 21st 2014 4:11 pm

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Originally Posted by Bri and Katee (Post 11310831)

I do believe that Germany is actively seeking to ban even the warnings on a sat nav.

I imagine it depends on the source of the information. If it comes from personal reports from road users then that could be illegal - a bit like flashing your lights in the UK to advise other users of the location of a speed trap is illegal.

In Spain, if the information is in the public domain and provided by the police for the general advice to drivers, there is no way that could ever be illegal.

lyric030250 Jun 21st 2014 5:58 pm

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Still fine you though ;)

Fred James Jun 21st 2014 6:16 pm

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Have you any evidence that Trafico have fined anyone for displaying official radar sites on their navigator?

lyric030250 Jun 21st 2014 6:19 pm

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Written in jest Fred

Fred James Jun 21st 2014 8:18 pm

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Fair comment. They do seem to make up the rules as they go.

Fined for leaving your lights on after leaving a tunnel - yes it happened!

Dxf Jun 21st 2014 8:19 pm

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Hola

I recently drove from Spain, through France to England. My sat-nav tells me where the Spanish cameras are BUT not where the French ones are as it is illegal in France! But started telling me again once in England.

Davexf

lyric030250 Jun 21st 2014 9:55 pm

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Fined for leaving your lights on after leaving a tunnel - yes it happened!
I travel Torrox to either Nerja or Frigiliana nearly daily and that involves two tunnels, one little more than a bridge, and I ALWAYS leave my lights on between the two. Better watch out :o

Fred James Jun 22nd 2014 6:27 am

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I think many people do. There is nothing in Spanish traffic law to say that you cannot keep your lights on.

The only way the police could take issue with it is if they were on main beam but it would be pretty difficult to prove that you were dazzling an oncoming car in broad daylight!

However, it did happen. If it had been me, I would have challenged it through my insurance who would almost certainly have got it annulled.

bobd22 Jun 22nd 2014 3:22 pm

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So if they fine you in a car for having dipped beam on outside tunnels in daylight what about motorbikes most modern bikes you can't turn off dipped lights? Also I thought EU law now says all new cars must have running lights on at all times OK not the dipped beam but lights? I know the tunnels you refer to Lyric and as you say one is so short pointless turning lights on apart from sign saying you must.

lyric030250 Jun 22nd 2014 3:34 pm

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Isn't the square blue sign a reminder not a command, a command being a white shape with a red rim, or is I wrong again ?




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