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Alpaccaman Mar 20th 2022 10:29 pm

Retiring to Spain post Brexit
 
Good morning
We have just sold our property in the UK and are looking to retire to Spain at some point this year. We were initially drawn to Menorca as we have friends on the island, however we are flying to Barcelona to recce the coast by car and flying back from Alicante. Having lived in Jersey for a number of years we prefer quieter areas with coves rather that the traditional resorts.

We will be pursuing the NLV route, however we are finding it surprisingly difficult to obtain general advice

We will be requiring financial/taxation advice and advice on the visa process

Any help would be much appreciated

missile Mar 20th 2022 11:07 pm

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There are many posts on here with all the info you might need.

It is a difficult process, but don't be put off. Good luck :-)

Moses2013 Mar 20th 2022 11:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Alpaccaman (Post 13102573)
Good morning
We have just sold our property in the UK and are looking to retire to Spain at some point this year. We were initially drawn to Menorca as we have friends on the island, however we are flying to Barcelona to recce the coast by car and flying back from Alicante. Having lived in Jersey for a number of years we prefer quieter areas with coves rather that the traditional resorts.

We will be pursuing the NLV route, however we are finding it surprisingly difficult to obtain general advice

We will be requiring financial/taxation advice and advice on the visa process

Any help would be much appreciated

There are quite a few threads in relation to Visa process, but it is probably recommended that you seek independent advice. That must of been many years ago in in Jersey as the island is quite overcrowded now (still have family friends there). If you are driving down south from Barcelona you will basically miss most of the coast with the coves. Costa Brava would be more like Plémont in Jersey and similar to Menorca, so you are better off going North.

Alpaccaman Mar 20th 2022 11:25 pm

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Thank you for that we miss Plémont and Beauport. It was 10 years ago, we lived in La Ruette very near Hamptonne country life museum

So do you suggest heading north towards Girona?

spainrico Mar 20th 2022 11:32 pm

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These guys can help with all

https://www.pellicerheredia.com/en/open-library/

I have used them for years.

Alpaccaman Mar 20th 2022 11:39 pm

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Thank you

Moses2013 Mar 20th 2022 11:45 pm

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Originally Posted by Alpaccaman (Post 13102583)
Thank you for that we miss Plémont and Beauport. It was 10 years ago, we lived in La Ruette very near Hamptonne country life museum

So do you suggest heading north towards Girona?

We live in Ireland now, but do have a holiday home between Vidreres/Lloret/Tossa, mainly as land was a bit cheaper and prefer green around us too. Obviously places like Begur or Llfranc are very expensive, but you can still find affordable parts and have the Camí de Ronda (a coastal walk) so again similar to coastal walks in Jersey.
It all depends on your budget of course. So basically all Girona province.

tebo53 Mar 20th 2022 11:57 pm

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Originally Posted by Alpaccaman (Post 13102573)
Good morning
We have just sold our property in the UK and are looking to retire to Spain at some point this year. We were initially drawn to Menorca as we have friends on the island, however we are flying to Barcelona to recce the coast by car and flying back from Alicante. Having lived in Jersey for a number of years we prefer quieter areas with coves rather that the traditional resorts.

We will be pursuing the NLV route, however we are finding it surprisingly difficult to obtain general advice

We will be requiring financial/taxation advice and advice on the visa process

Any help would be much appreciated

Hi,
Do you have a UK, EU or Irish passport?

To apply for a non lucrative visa you will need to apply through the Spanish consulate in the UK. You will need to meet the income and healthcare requirements.

https://visaguide.world/europe/spain-visa/

Steve

Alpaccaman Mar 20th 2022 11:59 pm

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Hi UK passport holders

tebo53 Mar 21st 2022 12:17 am

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Originally Posted by Alpaccaman (Post 13102595)
Hi UK passport holders

You will need to apply for the NLV from the Spanish consulate in London, Manchester or Edinburgh.
You will need to prove that you have an income of €27,792.96 for the first person per annum plus €6,948.24 for each additional person within the family.
The income could be accepted as savings plus a substantial income.
You will need full private healthcare paid for a full year for each family member.
You will need other documentation as required which will need to be translated into Spanish.

If you gain the NLV you can then move to Spain and apply for residency within the first month.

Steve

Alpaccaman Mar 21st 2022 12:28 am

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Apologies, I don't understand what you mean by this: The income could be accepted as savings plus a substantial income.

tebo53 Mar 21st 2022 12:32 am

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Originally Posted by Alpaccaman (Post 13102600)
Apologies, I don't understand what you mean by this: The income could be accepted as savings plus a substantial income.

As you will be required to meet the income requirements you can submit an income source, ie private pension etc to the required level or equivalent savings plus a substantial income.

Steve

Fredbargate Mar 21st 2022 9:14 am

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Head further south to Gibraltar

Less hassle and warmer

agree_to_disagree Mar 21st 2022 9:41 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 13102729)
Head further south to Gibraltar

Less hassle and warmer

So if you are a UK passport holder can u just move to Gibraltar seamlessly?

Any recommended websites for checking out house prices in Gibraltar?

growinspain Mar 21st 2022 9:50 am

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As Gibraltar will soon be back into Spanish hands it might be a choice but it is a very poor section of Spain with drug runners and immigrants from Africa in the waters almost everyday..

The NLV is good for 1 year and then reapplying you will have to maintain the income / savings requirements to maintain the visa and the right to live here.

In the Valencian community (the best) there are villajosia or el campello though Campello can get a little busy in the summer months.

Mark604 Mar 21st 2022 10:07 am

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"As Gibraltar will soon be back into Spanish hands..."
???

agree_to_disagree Mar 21st 2022 10:22 am

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Originally Posted by Alpaccaman (Post 13102573)
Good morning
We have just sold our property in the UK and are looking to retire to Spain at some point this year. We were initially drawn to Menorca as we have friends on the island, however we are flying to Barcelona to recce the coast by car and flying back from Alicante. Having lived in Jersey for a number of years we prefer quieter areas with coves rather that the traditional resorts.

We will be pursuing the NLV route, however we are finding it surprisingly difficult to obtain general advice

We will be requiring financial/taxation advice and advice on the visa process

Any help would be much appreciated

Barcelona is expensive
Valencia is good but airport is rubbish
For me it is down to Alicante or Malaga.
Flight prices to UK from both of these are really low and make regular trips back to the UK affordable.
If u are getting on in years u don't really want somewhere too isolated. Good proximity to healthcare, entertainment and shopping should be high priority.
Location that is serviced by regular public transport good idea.
Isolated properties also have higher security risk.

Fredbargate Mar 21st 2022 8:11 pm

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Originally Posted by agree_to_disagree (Post 13102740)
So if you are a UK passport holder can u just move to Gibraltar seamlessly?

Any recommended websites for checking out house prices in Gibraltar?

Yes
https://www.propertygibraltar.com/

Fredbargate Mar 21st 2022 8:22 pm

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Originally Posted by growinspain (Post 13102743)
As Gibraltar will soon be back into Spanish hands it might be a choice but it is a very poor section of Spain with drug runners and immigrants from Africa in the waters almost everyday..

You appear to be mistaking the Campo de Gibraltar with the country of Gibraltar.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence will know that the Campo de Gibraltar is part of lawless Spain.

I very much doubt your assumption that Gibraltar will be back in Spanish hands after 300+ years of being British but even if this was to happen the OP is considering a move to Spain.

The most likely scenario is that it will have a special relationship, but if not it will be treated similarly to the UK in relation to travel etc.

growinspain Mar 21st 2022 11:41 pm

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 13102801)
You appear to be mistaking the Campo de Gibraltar with the country of Gibraltar.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence will know that the Campo de Gibraltar is part of lawless Spain.

I very much doubt your assumption that Gibraltar will be back in Spanish hands after 300+ years of being British but even if this was to happen the OP is considering a move to Spain.

The most likely scenario is that it will have a special relationship, but if not it will be treated similarly to the UK in relation to travel etc.

Country of Gibraltar? Do they have a representative in the UN?

With all the Queens colonies revolting ( the Caribbean islands) this is the chance for Spain to take it back, along with the Argentinians with the Islas Malvinas

Moses2013 Mar 22nd 2022 12:33 am

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The OP didn't want to move to Gibraltar and this would only be interesting for someone who doesn't mind overcrowding. Unlike Jersey, you don't have the strict housing laws apart from this it seems https://www.phoenixgib.com/3-year-residency-explained
Unfortunately Jersey is starting to build up too and has seen over 10K more people since the OP left, but the coastal walks, pub food and beaches are still nice.

Fred James Mar 22nd 2022 12:43 am

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Originally Posted by growinspain (Post 13102857)
Country of Gibraltar? Do they have a representative in the UN?

No, its not a country. It's a British Overseas Territory.

Rosemary Mar 22nd 2022 12:59 am

Re: Retiring to Spain post Brexit
 

Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 13102801)
You appear to be mistaking the Campo de Gibraltar with the country of Gibraltar.

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence will know that the Campo de Gibraltar is part of lawless Spain.

I very much doubt your assumption that Gibraltar will be back in Spanish hands after 300+ years of being British but even if this was to happen the OP is considering a move to Spain.

The most likely scenario is that it will have a special relationship, but if not it will be treated similarly to the UK in relation to travel etc.


Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 13102875)
No, its not a country. It's a British Overseas Territory.

Very surprised that Fredbargate of all people introduced the idea of Gibraltar being a country!!!!

Rosemary

Fredbargate Mar 22nd 2022 1:05 am

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dictionary.cambridge.org › dictionary › englishCOUNTRY | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary



country
noun
uk /ˈkʌn.tri/ us /ˈkʌn.tri/

country noun (POLITICAL UNIT)


A1 [ C ]
an area of land that has its own government, army, etc.:

growinspain Mar 22nd 2022 1:33 am

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 13102883)

dictionary.cambridge.org › dictionary › englishCOUNTRY | meaning in the Cambridge English Dictionary



country
noun
uk /ˈkʌn.tri/ us /ˈkʌn.tri/

country noun (POLITICAL UNIT)


A1 [ C ]
an area of land that has its own government, army, etc.:

By that definition then all 50 states of the US of A are countries... NOT..

Fredbargate Mar 22nd 2022 7:46 pm

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Originally Posted by growinspain (Post 13102897)
By that definition then all 50 states of the US of A are countries... NOT..

All under a federal government?

Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are not self governing , therefore not countries

Plus England is part of a collection of Kingdoms, therefore not a country

Rosemary Mar 22nd 2022 8:14 pm

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Please stop spoiling threads with these types of arguements it is never helpful to other members or the original poster.

Rosemary


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