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Retirement Visa Questions

Old Mar 12th 2021, 9:31 am
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Originally Posted by bolton wanderer
If that's the case then why are they now having to wet stamp UK passports of UK residents?

Passports are/were not scanned on every occasion, some border officials at the ferry terminal barely glanced at your passport. The EU have stated that they hope to get ETIAS working with all EU points of entry by the end of 2022 and this could be when they have full integration of data from all countries in the EU. Personally, I don't think that they have this integration yet.
The little scanner the official uses and the automated ones only compare you with the picture that is stored on the chip. Nothing else as thats all there is (well the rest of your passport details are)
Its a read only chip so it doesn't have the ability to store your travel history (yet)

Don't know how other countries data is stored but the UK went for the simplest system it could get away with when biometrics were introduced.

Even once the passports can do this they will still wet stamp as its the easiest way to check.

The only time you get stopped is when your details have been flagged to the officials and 9 times out of 10 you get stopped exiting the terminal not at the border control. Please don't ask me it was bad enough at the time.
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Old Mar 13th 2021, 8:03 pm
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Swiping a passport also checks if it's flagged up on the SIS database, although I don't know if it did that before Brexit in the UK. The queues in summer 2017 were due to that change being rolled out.

So if you did overstay and you were caught on exit then the Schengen country could add your passport to the SIS database which meant you would be flagged up the next time you tried to entere the Schengen area.

The next bit of the puzzle is about automatically working out if you've overstayed or not and that's what ETIAS will do.
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Old Mar 14th 2021, 11:16 am
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Looking at the replies it’s difficult to give you advice without more information, such as do you own a place in Spain, do you have an NIE number? I assume not, but to clarify matters , if you did you could apply for Spanish temp residency visa ( was the green card) and you must do that in Spain at local police offices, etc.

You mention COVID as reason for being there but COVID restrictions have been in place since March 2020 but only prevented brits returning to uk, since xmas 2020. So am not sure why you did not leave? I mention this because one of the requirements for a retirement visa is that you have not stayed illegally in Spain!

The pre brexit rules allowed brits to stay for 183 days after which they were liable for tax. Now brits can stay for max 90 after which they need a visa.
The retirement visa requires that you MUST stay for at least 183 and pay tax. That is on all income and is at a higher rate than in the Uk .. at 24%.
You must apply for retirement visa in home country. The requirements are tough and will require that you have full Spanish health insurance and bank account and substantial income and funds. Plus no crimson record, doctors all clear from UK , etc etc . All in Spanish.

Hope this clarifies things for you.
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Old Mar 14th 2021, 2:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Simonevans1
The retirement visa requires that you MUST stay for at least 183 and pay tax. That is on all income and is at a higher rate than in the Uk .. at 24%.
In almost all regions the first rate of tax on earned income or pensons is just under 20%.

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Old Mar 15th 2021, 8:42 pm
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It is only possible if you were there before 31 December 2020 ... I have discussed it with a lawyer and I will opt for the golden visa in the end to avoid paying fees.
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Old Mar 16th 2021, 11:38 am
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Originally Posted by Fred James
In almost all regions the first rate of tax on earned income or pensons is just under 20%.
You are correct . The tax rate in Spain is 19% BUT not for non EU nationals .. that is at 24% and so post brexit our rate is now higher.
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Old Mar 16th 2021, 12:21 pm
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You are correct . The tax rate in Spain is 19% BUT not for non EU nationals .. that is at 24% and so post brexit our rate is now higher.
so when people are talking about Spain trying to attract more richer tourists/expats it’s a load of bull. Plenty of better countries with a lower tax rate.
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Old Mar 16th 2021, 12:24 pm
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You are confusing income tax for all residents, EU or not, which is 19% and that did not change with Brexit.. The 24% only applies to non EU non residents paying tax on rentals or the imputed rental income tax. and that was increased after Brexit.
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Originally Posted by Stingychips
so when people are talking about Spain trying to attract more richer tourists/expats it’s a load of bull.
Spain is a high tax country it's true, in France my tax threshold was some €23,000, but of what concern is that to tourists?



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