Residency before 31st December question
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Residency before 31st December question
Without going into the complications of why we currently cannot marry, my partner and I always planned to get married and move to Spain in 2020. That was before the virus struck. We bought a house in 2011 and it is ready to move into as our permanent home. I am past UK retirement age, my partner isn't but is retired due to ill health. We planned to marry so he could claim healthcare under my S1. We have a joint Spanish bank account and we both have NIE numbers. We are registered on our local village padron.
My partner is in poor health and travel to Spain would be difficult before the cut off date of 31st December to claim residency under the Brexit transition agreement.
If I travelled to Spain in September and claimed residency and it was granted, would my partner then automatically qualify for residency at a later date if we then married?
We have a good lawyer who has dealt with many things for us in the past ten years and we will be asking him for advice. But I wondered if anyone on this forum might have been in a similar situation in the past and have first hand knowledge of the answer. Thanks in advance.
My partner is in poor health and travel to Spain would be difficult before the cut off date of 31st December to claim residency under the Brexit transition agreement.
If I travelled to Spain in September and claimed residency and it was granted, would my partner then automatically qualify for residency at a later date if we then married?
We have a good lawyer who has dealt with many things for us in the past ten years and we will be asking him for advice. But I wondered if anyone on this forum might have been in a similar situation in the past and have first hand knowledge of the answer. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Residency before 31st December question
Not sure is the answer. Certainly if you and your partner were married before 31 Dec and you were legally resident with an S1 then he could join you after the 31 Dec and you could add him to your S1 as a dependant. Upon him reaching retirement age himself he could then get an S1 in his own right. I would guess what you propose may well be allowed, however if I were you I would ask the embassy and get it in writing from them.
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Re: Residency before 31st December question
Thanks for your response, much appreciated. When you say "ask the embassy", is that the Spanish embassy in London or the UK embassy in Spain?
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Re: Residency before 31st December question
I wrote to UK embassy in Spain they have an online system to contact them.
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Re: Residency before 31st December question
Try this link https://www.contact-embassy.service....ulate%20Malaga
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Re: Residency before 31st December question
Without going into the complications of why we currently cannot marry, my partner and I always planned to get married and move to Spain in 2020. That was before the virus struck. We bought a house in 2011 and it is ready to move into as our permanent home. I am past UK retirement age, my partner isn't but is retired due to ill health. We planned to marry so he could claim healthcare under my S1. We have a joint Spanish bank account and we both have NIE numbers. We are registered on our local village padron.
My partner is in poor health and travel to Spain would be difficult before the cut off date of 31st December to claim residency under the Brexit transition agreement.
If I travelled to Spain in September and claimed residency and it was granted, would my partner then automatically qualify for residency at a later date if we then married?
We have a good lawyer who has dealt with many things for us in the past ten years and we will be asking him for advice. But I wondered if anyone on this forum might have been in a similar situation in the past and have first hand knowledge of the answer. Thanks in advance.
My partner is in poor health and travel to Spain would be difficult before the cut off date of 31st December to claim residency under the Brexit transition agreement.
If I travelled to Spain in September and claimed residency and it was granted, would my partner then automatically qualify for residency at a later date if we then married?
We have a good lawyer who has dealt with many things for us in the past ten years and we will be asking him for advice. But I wondered if anyone on this forum might have been in a similar situation in the past and have first hand knowledge of the answer. Thanks in advance.
Rosemary
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Re: Residency before 31st December question
Well, the Withdrawal Agreement spells out you have 6 months after the implementation period to obtain your residence certificate. There is nothing concrete about it from the Spanish government or from British embassy, but I'd imagine an announcement is due about how this will be put into effect. There is a big backlog of applications from the lockdowns and it may become clear it's impossible to issue residence certificate for everyone who wants to establish residence in time.
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Re: Residency before 31st December question
That was my point. I suspect those who leave it to the last minute will be disappointed.
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Re: Residency before 31st December question
The driving licence bit worries me if we don't get residency before, as I will then have to take a Spanish driving test.
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Re: Residency before 31st December question
If you are nervous (or not), you might want to take some advanced driving lessons before you leave UK? See here > https://www.iamroadsmart.com/
Really helpful. They will identify any bad habits you may have acquired over the years.
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Re: Residency before 31st December question
Thanks for the link bobd22. I'll make an enquiry. I'm also contacting our solicitor this week and see if he can shed any light. Thanks to everyone for their replies and suggestions.
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Re: Residency before 31st December question
Easy to say but have you taken a Spanish test and are you fluent in the language?
The theory part of the test is now only conducted in Spanish.
You will also be classed as a probationary driver and subject to the conditions attached to that.
It's highly probable too that your insurance will reflect that resulting in significantly higher premiums.
The theory part of the test is now only conducted in Spanish.
You will also be classed as a probationary driver and subject to the conditions attached to that.
It's highly probable too that your insurance will reflect that resulting in significantly higher premiums.
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Re: Residency before 31st December question
1.Easy to say but have you taken a Spanish test and are you fluent in the language?
2.The theory part of the test is now only conducted in Spanish.
3.You will also be classed as a probationary driver and subject to the conditions attached to that.
4.It's highly probable too that your insurance will reflect that resulting in significantly higher premiums.
2.The theory part of the test is now only conducted in Spanish.
3.You will also be classed as a probationary driver and subject to the conditions attached to that.
4.It's highly probable too that your insurance will reflect that resulting in significantly higher premiums.
2.At many schools the theoretical test can be taken in English, per this link https://practicatest.com/en/getting-...ain-in-english Barriej may find this link useful?
3.AFIK, a probationary license is only issued to YOUNG drivers?
4.Perhaps?
In any event:
Barriej would be wise to expedite his residencia and obtain his Spanish license by exchange.
If he fails to obtain residencia and cannot exchange Barriej would be able to obtain an international driving license
Last edited by missile; Jun 30th 2020 at 7:17 am.
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Re: Residency before 31st December question
I have just heard from my solicitor of an English speaking Foreign Residents Association and they are now finding it impossible to get residencia appointments for British people, BUT appointments are available for Dutch, German and Belgium people!
The British Consulate have been notified and asked to help
Davexf