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savannah_boy Feb 2nd 2017 1:45 pm

Remain a citizen of the EU
 
Any British citizens out there who want to remain part of the EU on an individual basis contact [email protected]

The European Parliament is being flooded with “thousands” of requests from Britons anxious to remain EU citizens after Brexit. Guy Verhofstadt, the parliament’s chief Brexit negotiator, vowed to press ahead with a proposal to offer them the chance to remain EU citizens, as he revealed the scale of interest on this side of the Channel.

Guy VERHOFSTADT | Home | MEPs | European Parliament

If you do nothing then I am pretty sure nothing will happen. Worth a go my friends.

Longlegpete Feb 2nd 2017 3:22 pm

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You can also follow Guy on Facebook, I suspect the thousands will turn to millions by the end of it all, unfortunately its very difficult to see how it could work but we will see

savannah_boy Feb 2nd 2017 3:31 pm

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Originally Posted by Longlegpete (Post 12169075)
You can also follow Guy on Facebook, I suspect the thousands will turn to millions by the end of it all, unfortunately its very difficult to see how it could work but we will see

The power of the people. If there is a subscription fee and people are willing to pay on an individual basis then how can the EU turn that down?

rachelk Feb 2nd 2017 3:31 pm

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Thank you for this.

Longlegpete Feb 2nd 2017 8:33 pm

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Theres also a petition on Change.org to ask the European parliament to consider the request of UK citizens who want to retain there EU citizenship to do so, it gained 200 signatures in the time it took me to sign

Pulaski Feb 2nd 2017 9:18 pm

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The suggestion of UK citizens voluntarily registering as an "EU citizen" when the UK leaves seems to be ill-thought-out and it is far from clear how such a scheme would work.

For starters if individuals of exiting states could register as an EU citizen if their country voted to leave the EU, it would actually encourage countries to vote to leave - because individuals could vote for their country to regain its sovereignty, but retain the right to live and work in the rump of the EU.

If you live outside the UK but within the European Onion, you would usually be better off seeking the citizenship of the country you're living in, and harassing the government there if the rules don't currently allow that.

Boseley Feb 3rd 2017 11:45 am

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12169450)
The suggestion of UK citizens voluntarily registering as an "EU citizen" when the UK leaves seems to be ill-thought-out and it is far from clear how such a scheme would work.

For starters if individuals of exiting states could register as an EU citizen if their country voted to leave the EU, it would actually encourage countries to vote to leave - because individuals could vote for their country to regain its sovereignty, but retain the right to live and work in the rump of the EU.

If you live outside the UK but within the European Onion, you would usually be better off seeking the citizenship of the country you're living in, and harassing the government there if the rules don't currently allow that.

That is what we did, we applied for nationality almost four years ago and the same was granted last year.

Makes life easier and insures our future here where we reside.

rachelk Feb 3rd 2017 12:04 pm

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I am unclear of how it could work logistically as well but at this stage it's a declaration of intent and a means of perhaps getting an idea of how many people feel strongly about hanging on to the EU citizenship.

Let's face it, noone seems very clear of how Brexit's going to work yet either.

lic Feb 3rd 2017 12:35 pm

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I love all this Brexit talk. Its as if the E.U. is a utopia that will never change! Both sides in the referendum lied, as Politicians always do. Remain or leave both gilded the lily. However Remain did not tell us of the changes that were in the pipeline if we remained. Would your children and grandchildren be conscripted into an EU army? Would we all have to pay the EU income tax on top of domestic income tax? Why does EU continue to allow poor countries to join it? Will Turkey join?
Why do we as guests in an EU country below state pension age get very little, whilst a French man can come to UK and claim, be treated free on HNS, have a taxpayer funded translator? Plus the welfare benefits!
It should be even across all EU statdes, but it is not and never will be. The UK pays a fortune and its the taxpayer that funds that fortune. The Corporations pay little or no tax, or pay it to another EU state.
If you wanted to live in Australia you'd have to emigrate.
I love spain and have had a house there for many years; hopefully I will continue to do so.
I am not against the people of Europe, but the politicians have a long long way to go before all people in Europe are treated the same.
All countries should pay the same membership fee, and if they can't they should not be considered for membership, similar to any golf club or any other organisation that charges a membership fee!

ned flanders Feb 3rd 2017 1:08 pm

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Originally Posted by Pulaski (Post 12169450)
If you live outside the UK but within the European Onion.

Well Pulaski, I don't mind admitting this brought tears to my eyes.

Fredbargate Feb 3rd 2017 2:01 pm

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Originally Posted by Boseley (Post 12169873)
That is what we did, we applied for nationality almost four years ago and the same was granted last year.

Makes life easier and insures our future here where we reside.

I have never understood why some people especially the ones who emigrate to Europe and set up home there do not do this.

Is it insecurity trying to keep the door open for a return to the UK should that eventually become a necessary escape route?

Pulaski Feb 3rd 2017 2:17 pm

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Originally Posted by Fredbargate (Post 12169961)
I have never understood why some people especially the ones who emigrate to Europe and set up home there do not do this. ....

It's not just Europe, it's the US too - we often get questions from people in the US who have lived in the US for 10, 20, or more years, who have never bothered to get US citizenship. :confused: .... I suspension that it is the same pattern in other countries too. :unsure:

Of the people asking questions in the US forum, some have heard that dual citizenship isn't allowed by the US and/or the UK, some have interpreted the US oath of citizenship waaay too literally (".... renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty ...." does not mean you have to give up your British passport), and some seem to think that taking US citizenship somehow dilutes their Britishness. :huh:

Fredbargate Feb 4th 2017 9:17 am

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Rajoy offers hope on May’s plan for British citizens living in EU

But No10 were boosted by an early morning with tete-a-tete with Spanish Premier Rajoy on the fringes of the meeting. The PM secured backing for an early deal on the rights of Brits living in Europe from her Spanish counterpart

Take your pick:-

https://www.wbnews.info/2017/02/hope...om-spanish-pm/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/277722...om-spanish-pm/

Theresa May edges closer to deal for thousands of ex-pats in Spain who face losing rights after Brexit - Mirror Online

May wins the agreement of Spain for an early expat deal | Daily Mail Online

EMR Feb 4th 2017 9:22 am

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Originally Posted by lic (Post 12169911)
I love all this Brexit talk. Its as if the E.U. is a utopia that will never change! Both sides in the referendum lied, as Politicians always do. Remain or leave both gilded the lily. However Remain did not tell us of the changes that were in the pipeline if we remained. Would your children and grandchildren be conscripted into an EU army? Would we all have to pay the EU income tax on top of domestic income tax? Why does EU continue to allow poor countries to join it? Will Turkey join?
Why do we as guests in an EU country below state pension age get very little, whilst a French man can come to UK and claim, be treated free on HNS, have a taxpayer funded translator? Plus the welfare benefits!
It should be even across all EU statdes, but it is not and never will be. The UK pays a fortune and its the taxpayer that funds that fortune. The Corporations pay little or no tax, or pay it to another EU state.
If you wanted to live in Australia you'd have to emigrate.
I love spain and have had a house there for many years; hopefully I will continue to do so.
I am not against the people of Europe, but the politicians have a long long way to go before all people in Europe are treated the same.
All countries should pay the same membership fee, and if they can't they should not be considered for membership, similar to any golf club or any other organisation that charges a membership fee!

Have not read so many lies and fantastical brexit viewpoints in ages.
Thanks for giving me a good laugh to start the day.

calman014 Feb 4th 2017 9:42 am

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The biggest joke is Verhofstadt himself, a guy who thinks he can simply make up the rules on the fly. Probably one of the most stupid proposals so far..


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