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nikki64 Oct 11th 2013 5:35 am

relocating
 
Hi very newbie...so easy does it, my husband and i are wanting to relocate to spain and are interested in property management (key holder of property airport runs, cleaning etc) either setting up a business or buying one. If anybody knows of any such like going or information on how to start up out there all information would be a bonus. Thank you Nikki:)

Rosemary Oct 11th 2013 8:04 am

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As Concierge for the Spanish section of BE I would like to say hello and welcome.

BE is a very large expat website, so if you have problems finding your way around we have concierges who will try to direct you. The moderators for the Spanish forums are Mitzyboy and Fred James, moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderador who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge of the issues of living in Spain. At the top of the page you will find a quirkily named thread called Free Beer which is full of important and useful information. Hope you enjoy your time participating in the forums.

Please let me know if you need any further help.

Rosemary

bxpuser24710519 Oct 11th 2013 8:19 am

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Hi and welcome. Thousands of them and probably thousands less since the crisis hits Spain. Buying one hmmmm never heard of any for sale, many won't be/are not legal so doubt you would find them for sale. You would need to be self employed as earning in Spain means autonomo which costs roughly 250 euros a month.

There stories of bad ones all over expats sites and few stories of good ones.

No idea if that indicates anything at all and have had no dealings with any.

Dxf Oct 11th 2013 8:52 am

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Originally Posted by nikki64 (Post 10940485)
Hi very newbie...so easy does it, my husband and i are wanting to relocate to spain and are interested in property management (key holder of property airport runs, cleaning etc) either setting up a business or buying one. If anybody knows of any such like going or information on how to start up out there all information would be a bonus. Thank you Nikki:)

Hi and Welcome,

In actual fact, in theory, you have hit on one area where you could find work as many builders etc., have returned leaving a possible opportunity. BUT the fly in the ointment is that the Hotels don't want people to be able to rent out their houses for short holidays, and are asking for the law to be changed.

I personally would not buy any such business, but simply advertise. But you need to be able to do or get over winter jobs done to maintain the house, and be able, at the drop of a hat, to replace that machine etc., that has just broken down during the season.

Further you may want to think about having a website advertising the houses for rent. All do-able, but it takes a lot of "get up and go" to get a new business off the ground, especially if unlike most, you intend to be legal.

Davexf

nikki64 Oct 11th 2013 9:20 am

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Big Thank you for your comments...most helpful, interesting advice that you all give maybe we'll buy a cattery instead lol

mikelincs Oct 11th 2013 9:49 am

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Originally Posted by nikki64 (Post 10940747)
Big Thank you for your comments...most helpful, interesting advice that you all give maybe we'll buy a cattery instead lol

You would, of course, need all the licences as well, and forget airport runs, unless you are a registered taxi company, then that will be illegal, and there are police crackdowns on such things with local taxi firms reporting any vehicle doing them that isn't licenced as a taxi. People doing airport runs unlicenced run the, not inconsiderable, risk of being stopped, having their vehicle impounded and being left stranded at the roadside, with visitors, luggage etc.

Dxf Oct 11th 2013 8:43 pm

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Hi

I knew an estate agent that registered to do airport runs to collect and return clients. They were always at the airport in the boom years so I assume it was all legal and above board.

Davexf

mikelincs Oct 11th 2013 8:56 pm

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Originally Posted by Dxf (Post 10941138)
Hi

I knew an estate agent that registered to do airport runs to collect and return clients. They were always at the airport in the boom years so I assume it was all legal and above board.

Davexf

Yes. but that would be a legal business with all licences, and they would only pick up clients of the estate agents, usually those coming in on house hunting trips.

nikki64 Oct 11th 2013 11:52 pm

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So even if some one is hiring a car from me and i choose to pick them up and take them back to the airport...thats classed as illegal...or i need a licence for it?

lynnxa Oct 12th 2013 12:38 am

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Originally Posted by nikki64 (Post 10941274)
So even if some one is hiring a car from me and i choose to pick them up and take them back to the airport...thats classed as illegal...or i need a licence for it?

if you had a hire car business you'd need licences & insurances - you'd have to include the airport pick-up side of things in those licences & insurances if you were offering that service

Domino Oct 12th 2013 1:44 am

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Originally Posted by nikki64 (Post 10940747)
Big Thank you for your comments...most helpful, interesting advice that you all give maybe we'll buy a cattery instead lol

you must be philanthropic multi-millionaires who want to down size your wallets.

catteries like most of the things out here are a money pit, there is no profit in it. Thats why people "volunteer" to work there.

as to the house maintenance etc - theoretically a good idea but remember it is up to the property owner to keep it up to date and maintained (unless you will do all that for free). You could be taking people to some very grotty rentals when they have spent oodles on the rent.

most things have been tried out here - just remember the old joke
If you wish to leave Spain a millionaire
come out with 2 millions.

jackytoo Oct 12th 2013 1:51 am

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Buy a property management business and you will find that the clients disappear with the seller:( Many failed estate agents have turned to management and the market is saturated.

Dxf Oct 12th 2013 4:13 am

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10941356)
Point 1 -
Buy a property management business and you will find that the clients disappear with the seller:(

Point 2 -
Many failed estate agents have turned to management and the market is saturated.

I agree totally with point one but on point two, then if you are a "doer" rather than managing, (cleaning pools, cutting grass, pruning trees and painting) and are reliable and properly priced, then I believe there is a small window of opportunity for work over the winter period.

But you must be reliable and willing to work long hours to survive (exist). And in the summer, you must be able to cope with everything a disgruntled renter throws at you.

Davexf

nikki64 Oct 12th 2013 4:18 am

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al sounds very depressing lol....so a business in spain is the same as the uk but with better weather!!!! is there a good business to be in???

andyrich666 Oct 12th 2013 6:58 am

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Originally Posted by mikelincs (Post 10940767)
You would, of course, need all the licences as well, and forget airport runs, unless you are a registered taxi company, then that will be illegal, and there are police crackdowns on such things with local taxi firms reporting any vehicle doing them that isn't licenced as a taxi. People doing airport runs unlicenced run the, not inconsiderable, risk of being stopped, having their vehicle impounded and being left stranded at the roadside, with visitors, luggage etc.

Legally yes he is right, in principal it goes on all the time, they have crackdowns but it does not stop it, not at all,


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