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Casa Santo Estevo Nov 2nd 2009 9:33 am

Radio 4 --- Repossessions in the Sun
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00njwd7

The best advice from this is get an independent solicitor

Casa Santo Estevo Nov 4th 2009 9:56 am

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Well the subject of repossessions and illegal housing is causing less of a stir that the opening of a new Ikea. That has to be a sad statement on this world. :(:blink:
Anyway there is a new website which the Spanish government hopes will help to tackle the problem of illegal building. It seemly shows what the land designation is. Read the website before purchasing and you can see the status of your proposed purchase. There is a small problem it seems the government website is not fully operational at the moment.

So in the near future lets hope that this will prove useful to some of you thinking about moving across.

agoreira Nov 4th 2009 10:04 am

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Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo (Post 8071744)
Well the subject of repossessions and illegal housing is causing less of a stir that the opening of a new Ikea. That has to be a sad statement on this world. :(:blink:

Probably some, like me, have already listened to it, having seen it mentioned on another site.

HBG Nov 4th 2009 7:59 pm

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I think we’ve all been bombarded with so much bad news that we’re sitting tight in our little casas hoping it will all pass over. People are watching their letter boxes and jump when they hear the sound of a bulldozer. What more is there to say?

If you really want to get depressed, go into the ‘returning to the UK’ threads. And take a handkerchief.

Casa Santo Estevo Nov 4th 2009 8:17 pm

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Originally Posted by HBG (Post 8072692)
I think we’ve all been bombarded with so much bad news that we’re sitting tight in our little casas hoping it will all pass over. People are watching their letter boxes and jump when they hear the sound of a bulldozer. What more is there to say?

If you really want to get depressed, go into the ‘returning to the UK’ threads. And take a handkerchief.

This sort of thing does not personally affect us there is hardly any illegal buildings in Galicia and little mass development also. We would never return (and at present have no plans to go anywhere) to the UK there are much better places to live:thumbsup:.

As said if the opening of a new store is your bag, then it is quite a testimony as to what is happening in other parts of the expats society. You cannot hide from what has happened only inform those persons who wish to move so they can understand and be aware, of what the situation is like in some parts of Spain. This was posted to enlighten them.

agoreira Nov 4th 2009 9:49 pm

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Originally Posted by Casa Santo Estevo (Post 8072725)
You cannot hide from what has happened only inform those persons who wish to move so they can understand and be aware, of what the situation is like in some parts of Spain. This was posted to enlighten them.

I have noticed though that many expats choose to ignore many truths about Spain. In another forum, they never miss a chance to slate UK, especially the NHS, that's normally a favourite. But recently when someone posted a link to an article in a Spanish newspaper about how someone was turned away 3 times from a Málaga hospital and died, despite being read more than a hundred times, there was not one comment. Had that been the NHS, they'd have all been weighing in with their 2p worth. It's as if it didn't happen, as if mistakes are common in the NHS but not in their Spanish health service. They seem to be in denial that anything can be bad in Spain.

chrisfromusa Nov 11th 2009 8:04 am

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 8072846)
I have noticed though that many expats choose to ignore many truths about Spain. In another forum, they never miss a chance to slate UK, especially the NHS, that's normally a favourite. But recently when someone posted a link to an article in a Spanish newspaper about how someone was turned away 3 times from a Málaga hospital and died, despite being read more than a hundred times, there was not one comment. Had that been the NHS, they'd have all been weighing in with their 2p worth. It's as if it didn't happen, as if mistakes are common in the NHS but not in their Spanish health service. They seem to be in denial that anything can be bad in Spain.

Course not, not with all that sunshine and warm weather abound :rolleyes:

JLFS Nov 11th 2009 8:29 am

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 8072846)
I have noticed though that many expats choose to ignore many truths about Spain. In another forum, they never miss a chance to slate UK, especially the NHS, that's normally a favourite. But recently when someone posted a link to an article in a Spanish newspaper about how someone was turned away 3 times from a Málaga hospital and died, despite being read more than a hundred times, there was not one comment. Had that been the NHS, they'd have all been weighing in with their 2p worth. It's as if it didn't happen, as if mistakes are common in the NHS but not in their Spanish health service. They seem to be in denial that anything can be bad in Spain.


I did not see the post that you are talking about, but I am and surprised at the lack of comments.
The national health service in the UK does come in for a lot of stick, as does the low level of government help for the "poorer sector of the population".
Which compared to other countries is incredible, a safety net for all, unlike Spain and some other EU countries.

I n my opinion, the NHS does have its faults, but it is still the best country in the world when it comes to looking after the "Have nots".

The care for older and disabled people in Spain is abysmal, if not non existant. The nursing in hospitals is almost always left to the family to provide, but that is what the staff are for, surely.

The UK may not be my country of birth, but I will always be thankful for my years spent there. I think British people should be made to live in another country, so that they can really appreciate what they have.

bil Nov 11th 2009 9:52 am

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Nowhere is perfect. Some places just suit you better than others.

For me, the weather is important. I know that politics is sh*te wherever you go, that I will have problems wherever I go, but I would rather face all that while it is sunny and warm, thank you very much. Much more of the UK's unremitting grey weather and I will be giving serious consideration to slashing my wrists.

chrisfromusa Nov 11th 2009 3:12 pm

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Originally Posted by bil (Post 8091497)
Nowhere is perfect. Some places just suit you better than others.

For me, the weather is important. I know that politics is sh*te wherever you go, that I will have problems wherever I go, but I would rather face all that while it is sunny and warm, thank you very much. Much more of the UK's unremitting grey weather and I will be giving serious consideration to slashing my wrists.

You should come live in Phoenix or Tucson, Arizona then :p hardly gets below like.....75°F (around 24°C) ever, and 300+ days of sunshine :p oh did I forget to mention, everybody speaks English? :thumbup:

Madridboy Nov 11th 2009 5:43 pm

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Originally Posted by chrisfromusa (Post 8092210)
You should come live in Phoenix or Tucson, Arizona then :p hardly gets below like.....75°F (around 24°C) ever, and 300+ days of sunshine :p oh did I forget to mention, everybody speaks English? :thumbup:

Everyone speaks English or English and Mexican? lol Not the easyest of countries to move to on a permanent basis though is it? The USA would actualy be my first choice if it were easyer to go to.

agoreira Nov 11th 2009 10:16 pm

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The UK may not be my country of birth, but I will always be thankful for my years spent there. I think British people should be made to live in another country, so that they can really appreciate what they have.
I think more and more are realising, especially during these times of crisis, that the UK ain´t such a bad place if you have been left with nought! Not only Spain, but in many other places, people have learnt they are very much on their own when things go wrong.. Unfortunately, for some it´s already too late, they are stuck in a country that they cannot escape due to the inability to sell their property. Some have just thrown the keys into the bank and gone home. For those with financial means, they´ll be fine, they´ll survive, but I feel for those that will be suffering.

JLFS Nov 12th 2009 6:09 am

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 8092979)
I think more and more are realising, especially during these times of crisis, that the UK ain´t such a bad place if you have been left with nought! Not only Spain, but in many other places, people have learnt they are very much on their own when things go wrong.. Unfortunately, for some it´s already too late, they are stuck in a country that they cannot escape due to the inability to sell their property. Some have just thrown the keys into the bank and gone home. For those with financial means, they´ll be fine, they´ll survive, but I feel for those that will be suffering.



Especially those with children, who have to be uprooted and taken back to a country that they have forgotten about and is quite alien to them now.

Casa Santo Estevo Nov 12th 2009 6:30 am

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Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 8092979)
..........., but I feel for those that will be suffering.

and they all suffer from the greed of others----
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...-of-money.html

HBG Nov 12th 2009 6:55 am

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8094338)
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Especially those with children, who have to be uprooted and taken back to a country that they have forgotten about and is quite alien to them now.

It’s even worse than that, often the children were born in Spain and are moving to a foreign country. I pity them their first day in a playground in the UK. I know, I’ve been there.

JLFS Nov 12th 2009 6:58 am

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Originally Posted by HBG (Post 8094483)
It’s even worse than that, often the children were born in Spain and are moving to a foreign country. I pity them their first day in a playground in the UK. I know, I’ve been there.

Ive been there too........

jackytoo Nov 12th 2009 7:03 am

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According to a lot of the forums a lot of British children are bullied in spanish schools because they are guiris. They also suffer bad treatment from some spanish teachers. I read a post somewhere where the teacher called the British children english pigs! Suppose they will be a bit streetwise after that treatment.

HBG Nov 12th 2009 8:02 am

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Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8094497)
Ive been there too........

Mind you, that good kicking on my first day, and several more after that, served me well, on the shelf behind me are cups for running and boxing, I wouldn’t have won any of them had I stayed where I was.

And the nightmares are receding with the passage of time.

JLFS Nov 12th 2009 8:11 am

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Originally Posted by HBG (Post 8094669)
Mind you, that good kicking on my first day, and several more after that, served me well, on the shelf behind me are cups for running and boxing, I wouldn’t have won any of them had I stayed where I was.

And the nightmares are receding with the passage of time.

Sorry that you had such a bad time, I class my time of being a newcomer as good and positive. I was never bullied, and I felt very welcome.
In fact the kids that seemed to have a hard time were the ones with freckles and red hair.
I was totally in love with a girl called Maureen, she had red hair but she was never bullied, but most of the others were, as I recall.

chrisfromusa Nov 12th 2009 8:45 am

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Originally Posted by Madridboy (Post 8092436)
Everyone speaks English or English and Mexican?

No such thing as Mexican, it's SPANISH :p and yes everyone speaks English, except the vast majority of illegals

Anyway, my own personal story is I've been picked on and bullied starting school in the U.S. because I didn't know English, I sympathize with those who have been there as well (not just limited to a foreign English speaking environment)

cricketman Nov 12th 2009 6:42 pm

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[QUOTE=chrisfromusa;8094804]No such thing as Mexican, it's SPANISH :p QUOTE]

I know Americans (not you of course :) ) who live in Spain and tell me about all the Spanish who live in the US.

When I explain they are most probably Mexican or Central American they look at me gone out.

I then tell them that since Americans speak English they must be English :rofl:

jdr Nov 12th 2009 7:22 pm

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[QUOTE=cricketman;8096286]

Originally Posted by chrisfromusa (Post 8094804)
No such thing as Mexican, it's SPANISH :p QUOTE]

I know Americans (not you of course :) ) who live in Spain and tell me about all the Spanish who live in the US.

When I explain they are most probably Mexican or Central American they look at me gone out.

I then tell them that since Americans speak English they must be English :rofl:

Most Americans understand little of what is outside their country, so cos people speak spanish they think they are Spaniards.

Casa Santo Estevo Nov 12th 2009 8:38 pm

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Originally Posted by chrisfromusa (Post 8094804)
No such thing as Mexican, it's SPANISH :p and yes everyone speaks English, except the vast majority of illegals

Anyway, my own personal story is I've been picked on and bullied starting school in the U.S. because I didn't know English, I sympathize with those who have been there as well (not just limited to a foreign English speaking environment)


But what has your view point got to do with repossession of housing in Spain?:confused:

manamama Nov 12th 2009 9:09 pm

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I will admit that we nearly bought an off-plan property in Elvira in 2006.

Thank God we didn't go through with it.

We paid 6000 euros deposit and Thank God we got an independant lawyer (who got us our money back too).

We were to pay the rest on completion but decided against it (actually got pregnant again so our little "accident" was a double bonus!

I am so glad we didn't..or we would surely be trapped in the Sun too.

I really feel for those who have bought and are stuck..could anyone imagine what is happening now, happening? Unbelievable and very unfair..

jackytoo Nov 12th 2009 9:18 pm

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A report is Sur (Before the crunch) said that it was taking 3 to 4 years average to sell a property. I hate to think what it takes now:eek:

I know a few who have had property on sale for 2 years plus and one hasn't had a viewing despite slashing the price

cricketman Nov 12th 2009 9:28 pm

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Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 8096588)
A report is Sur (Before the crunch) said that it was taking 3 to 4 years average to sell a property. I hate to think what it takes now:eek:

I know a few who have had property on sale for 2 years plus and one hasn't had a viewing despite slashing the price

That doesnt surprise me

On the CDS the average salary is about 15k euros per year. If both in the couple are earning this is 30k euros. Which means they can get a mortgage of 120k euros. Which will currently get them a not very nice 1 bed flat.

There are only so many people who have a spare half a million in the bank ready to splurge out on a Spanish villa


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