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I am currently in the UK but have an apartment in Ayamonte: Question when the border is open to us Brits, if 14 day quarantine laws in place can I stay in Spain for a shorter term say 7 days.This may sound like silly question but no one seems to know the answer

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Not official yet but Spain is looking to end the 14 day self isolate rule as from July 1st from selected countries. Whether UK will be among them from the start will also have to be confirmed as well as whether you would have to self isolate upon your return.

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At the moment Brits are not welcome in Spain (see threads on Spain forum) and won't be until our infection and death rates are much lower, so the issue of quarantine in either direction isn't relevant at the moment. The signs are that by the time UK stats are acceptable the quaranteen rules will have ended.

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Hi Mike

I understand that this story has been misquoted by the UK press and refers to the Balerics and to the last two weeks of June. https://www.efe.com/efe/espana/economia/espana-trabaja-en-rutas-seguras-para-recibir-turistas-la-segunda-mitad-de-junio/10003-4259078.

The Spanish enforced quarantine lasts until the end of the State of Alarm. As it stands now, borders will be open and tourist will be "welcome" 1st July. There is still the matter of the UK's quarantine for returning travelers, who knows?

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I agree. I dont like a lot of the press reporting on this. Tourists are 'welcome' everywhere especially with their "tourist dollar" which can be a huge part of a country's economy and people's livlihoods.

The countries went into lockdown at different times, with different strategies. Many are coming out at different times too. A significant change will be the opening of bars + restos. France do it today, Belgium next week :fingerscrossed:, some e.g Spain have already done it. Of course this is a major need for a tourist.

I fully support any country that stops us visiting them, and therefore bars+restos etc, when we haven't opened these in our own country! Not just us, any country that is 'behind' others.

After all this eff**ing virus knows no borders

The 14 day quarantine is also a 'killer' of tourism. I actually dont know how effective it would be in practice, but as long as its there we are stuck. Our tourist industry is hamstrung till we stop that. For arriving visitors and returning residents wont have gone in the first place! We need the tourist-dollar too. It has to work both ways, and be bilateral

I support a 'proper airbridge' - quarantine free travel between 2 countries where the infection rates are similar and low. But its complicated,. Already on the Spain forum, people are suggesing at eg going to Spain via Ireland to get around the restrictions.

I don't like these kinds of 'Cummings solutions'!

But Spain look to be set to open on July 1, with Pedro Sanchez saying that the recent extension of regulations were definitively the last. Lets hope the situation in the UK will have dropped to a low level by then. For the incoming quarantine rule. Primarily for the health of our country and then for the opening of bilateral open tourism :fingerscrossed:

Jon

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Hi John
Sanchez's extension hasn't been voted on yet That will be later next week. He only got the last on e through by by 1 vote, The likelihood is that it will happen as he has said it will be the last extension

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I'm not sure going to Spain via Ireland would work - after all we will still have a UK passport and border control aren't daft.

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I agree, but there is that thinking out there, as seen on the other thread.

Since we've been in lockdown, I dont know how the airports work during the crisis. However when I travel 'normally' between Shengen countries, with my UK passport, it's rarely checked and many airports have special areas or terminals where you walk straight out with no passport control, based on the origin of the flight not the passenger.

Obviously that will need reviewing going forward

The EU are looking at origin tracing ... but it adds more complexity... But some people are always looking for the loophole.

Jon

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Hi all .. my uncle has a house on costa Esuri and is wondering when he will be able to return to his home there .. just reading some of theses messages that doesn’t look like any time soon .. is there no exceptions for home owner’s .. as he’s worried about his property and wants some reassurance everything is ok with it .. he and I both understand the risks and the severity of this covid 19 to everyone thanks x

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At the moment only those with Citizenship or Residencia are allowed it to Spain.

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Does he have a keyholder in Esuri? If so maybe it could arranged for some kind person to do a property inspection. Otherwise perhaps you could ask a neighbour to have an external looksee.
Which urb is his property in? And which bloque/manzana.

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Happy to check the house externally if you message me the address.

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Hi All, We are hoping to come, with our 3 teenagers, over to Isla Canela on the 1st of July to stay in our apartment. We are flying to Faro from Dublin and crossing into Spain. Our understanding is that Portugal has announced the opening of their Border with Spain and that Spain has announced that a 14 day quarantine is not necessary from 1 July. But we are relying on announcements in the Press so I would welcome any local updates that anyone may have. We have booked our flights but haven’t yet decided on whether we will travel! Also any general updates on what has opened up in terms of Restaurants, shops and other tourist activities would also be good to know.

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Restaurants are opening up slowly. There are not many people out in Ayamonte and Isla Canela. I’ve been to Punta this morning Most places are closed but they expecting things to pick up this weekend Sugar Reef is open and other places seem to be stocking up for Spanish holidaymakers to arrive
At the moment you can only come into Spain if you have residencia or Citizen but hopefully that changes on July 1

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Many thanks for the quick reply, just checking does having a NIF number give you residency (document that we had to get stamped when we purchased the apartment 16 years ago) or is residency a level above that.. we do pay some property taxes!

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Nie or Nif is not Residencia. Nie is like your National insurance no in Gb

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NIE is the National ID number for foreigners It doesn't give you any access to any state services but you have to have it to conduct many transactions eg buying a property/car, paying tax etc. Residencia needs a formal application and jumping through a number of hoops before you qualify as a resident. It will probably be harder after 31st December (Brexit) as you will have to qualify as an alien rather than an EU citizen. I suspect it may be a bit late to apply for a residencia but you could try - you probably need the services of an abagado to get it done quickly.

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For Information. You can now apply for Residencia in Ayamonte. No need to go to Huelva

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Here's a recent article from June 8.

https://www.scotsman.com/news/transp...sitors-1995876

• It's not 100% sure that UK visitors to Spain will have totally free access on 1July according to this..
• Portugal is in talks with the UK re airbridge.
• In 17 years crossing the bridge I've never had to produce ID. Though all are required to have one on their person. The town hall will notarise a photocopy. Esurijohn once posted that they would notarise a reduced size copy which he laminated. I don't know if any of this has changed.

Visitors coming in from the UK to Faro may expect to have the same freedom crossing the border, especially with a PT registered rent car.

But there could be increased checks ... So I personally wouldnt 'fiddle it' without being sure that we had open access.

I mentioned earlier that the EU are looking at origin tracking (no announcement yet) so I would also bring some proof if I was not coming from the UK

Let's see if our numbers can improve so none of these special measures need to be taken.

That leaves quarantine on re-entry to the UK to also consider

Jon

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Judging by the lack of compliance with social distancing , the wearing of a mask in the required places and the complete ignorance of some people I will be very surprised if we don't have a spike in cases. Our communal pool is open with no obvious adherence to the rules, a sign on the gate saying wash your hands. The queues coming down from the North of Portugal and the pictures of the crowded beaches along the Algarve with little or no compliance there either means they could have a rise in cases also. Unless you have been tested you have no idea if you have it or not, feeling fine is an ignorant statement with health of others at risk by your selfish behaviour and lack of common sense. It looks like we will not learn from this either. Me me me society a LOT less of us but what the heck I am ok jack mentality !

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But you did in the good old days when there was only the ferry or a long drive :eek:

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Can you now apply at the comisaría? That was possible when we bought in 2003. Might avoid the queues at the foreigner’s office in Huelva.

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Which office do you go to for this and do you need a Cita Previa?

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Not sure John but a friend got theirs yesterday.
They went through a solicitor Ana Paula. Possibly at the Police station and you do need an appointment

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Thanks for that.