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snikpoh Mar 1st 2014 9:46 pm

Re: Pool build question
 

Originally Posted by megmet (Post 11154246)
Yes you do need a licence for it, you also must have an architect to draw up plans, the town hall wouldn't even speak to us about a licence until we got the plans.
Once the work has been signed off by the architect you then get the certificate of first occupation (a daft name for it on an old building) from the town hall which makes it legal.
Anything that is a permanent structure should be put on the escritura, if it's not on there then it would undoubtedly cause a problem should you wish to sell the property.

Wouldn't it be a certificate for second occupation? (which is still daft, I know)

megmet Mar 2nd 2014 3:34 am

Re: Pool build question
 

Originally Posted by snikpoh (Post 11154536)
Wouldn't it be a certificate for second occupation? (which is still daft, I know)

No, it's still first occupation even though the house was built in 1970.
That of course may be because it was a bungalow with roof terrace, we have built our pool up there and added a second terrace, so they probably class it as a new level.
But hey this is Spain, the workings of their minds are and will no doubt remain a complete mystery. :blink:

MrsMac59 Mar 3rd 2014 12:38 am

Re: Pool build question
 

"deposit for water with a secondary recreational use".

This I'm interested in, for two reasons.

We have a 2.5 acre plot of which I would say perhaps 0.75 acre is the fenced plot encompassing house/pool/driveway etc., as you would expect but then there's the agricultural plot behind. In the first few years at least, we'll be away for six months of the year and would like some way of watering trees and plants we put on the plot until they are settled and have root structures mature enough to take care of themselves. The area of the house plot has been nicely gravelled and I didn't want to have an array of black irrigation pipes running from the house onto the agricultural plot, nor do I really want to disturb the gravel to run pipes into channels and then cover them over with gravel again.

I was wondering what the alternative might be, but it would sound to me as though I could build a deposito on the agricultural plot at the opposite end to the house and feed the planting from there - and if it was a big enough deposito to have a "secondary recreational use" there wouldn't be an issue. Is that correct?

snikpoh Mar 3rd 2014 12:46 am

Re: Pool build question
 

Originally Posted by megmet (Post 11154888)
No, it's still first occupation even though the house was built in 1970.
That of course may be because it was a bungalow with roof terrace, we have built our pool up there and added a second terrace, so they probably class it as a new level.
But hey this is Spain, the workings of their minds are and will no doubt remain a complete mystery. :blink:

My question was meant to be rhetorical (clearly failed ...:p)

As it's work done to the same property (as registered and mentioned on the escritura) it shouldn't matter that you're adding a new level.

The name is actually "cedula d'habitabilitat de segona o posteriors ocupacions" or at least it is in Valencian ;) on form HS-2

In other words, as it's not a new build, you have to get a second occupation licence. I am looking at one right now that I had to get for one of my properties.

Fred James Mar 3rd 2014 1:23 am

Re: Pool build question
 

Originally Posted by MrsMac59 (Post 11156061)

I was wondering what the alternative might be, but it would sound to me as though I could build a deposito on the agricultural plot at the opposite end to the house and feed the planting from there - and if it was a big enough deposito to have a "secondary recreational use" there wouldn't be an issue. Is that correct?

I can't see why not. You do need to get a building licence for an agricultural deposito, but that is normally a formality.

I don't think there is any law that says you can't swim in it.

Ask at the town hall.

Bri and Katee Mar 3rd 2014 6:03 am

Re: Pool build question
 
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Mrs mac.....

This is how they dig holes in this area. To say the ground is 'difficult' is an understatement:rofl: But check out the layers you can see around the top, there are no damp areas, its the same colour all the way down. You are correct in your assumption that any planting needs a water source, in fact it continues to amaze us how anything we plant grows at all. By the way the scrub just beyond the small conifers is ours as well, can't wait for them to grow tall enough to hide that from view!

Fred James Mar 3rd 2014 7:54 am

Re: Pool build question
 

Originally Posted by Bri and Katee (Post 11156584)
You are correct in your assumption that any planting needs a water source, in fact it continues to amaze us how anything we plant grows at all.

You're dead right there! In the summer we use about 30 tonnes of water every week. That's enough to fill a small pool.

Domino Mar 3rd 2014 8:13 am

Re: Pool build question
 

Originally Posted by MrsMac59 (Post 11156061)
This I'm interested in, for two reasons.

We have a 2.5 acre plot of which I would say perhaps 0.75 acre is the fenced plot encompassing house/pool/driveway etc., as you would expect but then there's the agricultural plot behind. In the first few years at least, we'll be away for six months of the year and would like some way of watering trees and plants we put on the plot until they are settled and have root structures mature enough to take care of themselves. The area of the house plot has been nicely gravelled and I didn't want to have an array of black irrigation pipes running from the house onto the agricultural plot, nor do I really want to disturb the gravel to run pipes into channels and then cover them over with gravel again.

I was wondering what the alternative might be, but it would sound to me as though I could build a deposito on the agricultural plot at the opposite end to the house and feed the planting from there - and if it was a big enough deposito to have a "secondary recreational use" there wouldn't be an issue. Is that correct?

seriously consider coverings - open water will drastically evaporate and if you are not there to top up you may find that your water source dries up on you

also, many plants do not like hot water and that the best time to water is during the early evening or night, this allows the moisture to soak through and when the sun starts hitting it saves the plants from being boiled alive

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MrsMac59 Mar 3rd 2014 8:14 pm

Re: Pool build question
 

This is how they dig holes in this area.
Lovely. My husband knows how to handle a kango and he's always dreamed of owning a tractor so it'll be like a dream come true for him - almost multi-tasking for men!!! :D


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