plumber and sparky ! advice needed
 

hi wanted advice im a plumber and brother is an electrician , do we need to get registered over there to set up our business or is uk documentation ok to use didnt know if we needed spanish version of part p or corgi. thanks for any advice.

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Not sure what the quaification is called,but as an electrician your brother will need to have his work "signed off",by another electrician.
Seem to recall this being covered on another thread,so theres prob another sparks and plumber on here somewhere,who can help:)

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I think "boletin" - not sure of spelling though:)

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The 'boletin' is what a qualified electrician signs as a guarantee to the authorities that the electrical installation has been properly carried out.

Unqualified electricians have to pay a qualified one to do this. Regulations and procedures are considerably different from the UK as can be seen here:

http://www.mtas.es/insht/legislation...T.htm#articulo

Obviously, convalidation of UK qualifications would not be an option in the case of an electrician.

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Hi
My husband is an Electrician. He has all his qualifications and updates and is registered with NICEIC here in U.K. I am sure you will agree with him when people on here tell you you would not be qualified to work in Spain, It is an insult to your skills and intelligence!!! Sure the wiring is different. But not any where near as strict or complicated as here. When it comes to the regs!!! What a joke!!! Someone on here gave a link to the Regs and he printed them off. To become registered in Spain could involve an exam and the language would be the problem. Why not try contacting the Institute of Electrical Engineers here. Harmonization with Europe has been being worked on for ages it can't be far away.

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Hi Beachcomber,

There are all sorts of qualifications that have been allowed such as Architect, Civil Engineer, Mechanical Engineer Electrical Engineer and Doctor but they don't make it easy to get registered with the equivalent institution in Spain. I think the best place to start is with the qualifying body in UK and see what overall arrangements they have agreed with their equivalent body in Spain and take it from there.

PS. Just seen this on another thread might be worth a try

We subscribe to NARIC ( National Academic Recognition Centre for the United Kingdom) as we do frequently need to get an English equivalent for a foreign qualification.

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thanks for all the help , ill contact the inst of electricians. cheers.

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I had a similar problem in Canada in the 70`s, they would not recognize my papers and would of meant going to college to learn stuff that was extinct in the UK before I started plumbing.
They laughed at me when I said in the UK they use plastic drainage and not cast iron any more. doh

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The regulations here are extremely tough. The skills you need are extremely varied and highly technical in nature:

• Burying all cables at seemingly haphazzard angles - precisely calculated to maximise the chance of being hit by a nail.
• Being able to stuff 30 wires into a single terminal block, then stuff the whole lot into a small child-height box, covering it only with a thin piece of clip-on plastic.
• Despite there only ever being two colours of wire, always getting confused as to which wire does what.
• Certifying that a house is 'electrically safe' whilst live wires are still physically dangling from the ceiling at head height without light fittings attached.
• Paying no more than 20 centimos for every outlet and fitting, so they that arc, spark, and otherwise fail 30 minutes after the electrician leaves the property.

:blink:

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One question that springs to mind is that if someone seeking to become a qualified electrician in Spain would find an examination a problem because he cannot understand Spanish how on earth is he going to keep up with the constant flow of new rules and regulations of which the following is an example:

http://www.endesaonline.es/resources...senero2008.pdf

and how would he conduct his frequent necessary conversations and consultations with personel from the Ministerio de Industria.

Harmonisation in Europe in this field is all very well but it is not going to work properly until (or, more likely, unless) they harmonise the languages of various member states.

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You forgot the bit where the sockets have to be within 50 cms of the sink or basin. ;-))

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You mean we have all got to learn Spanish!

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We have a socket about 4 inches above the sink in our kitchen in the apartment we have just moved into.:ohmy:

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Isn't the official language of the EU English?

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One of three I think but there are about 20 official translations