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mogsmum Sep 16th 2012 1:50 am

Re: A place in the UK + Spain + Let in Florida ?
 

Originally Posted by stuboy (Post 10282816)
Over £3000 for flights alone? Unless you normally travel first/business class this seems high.

no i agree, we considered floriday many moons ago but the stay restriction etc but now the flight costs are ridiculous I was costing up a trip for next year and the fares were roughly 650pp:o

jackytoo Sep 16th 2012 3:38 am

Re: A place in the UK + Spain + Let in Florida ?
 
There is no way you can get into the USA permanently. 6 month per year is the max and then you need a B-2 with interview. We bought a place on Floridas gulf coast after living in Spain a few years. Winter weather is perfect there. We took 2 dogs and a cat with us. Costly and logistical nightmare:eek: One of the dogs had a bad reaction flying back so we never did the 6 months anymore. We just did a couple of 3 week stints after that. Taxes are high but you get a lot of house for your money. We rent it out long term now and the rental return is good.

If they ever get around to bringing out a retirement visa we would be there as quick as saying Virgin Atlantic:rofl:

BTW. we just booked flights to Miami..£980 for two people in December, not bad!

Jerseygirl Sep 16th 2012 3:45 am

Re: A place in the UK + Spain + Let in Florida ?
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10283661)
There is no way you can get into the USA permanently. 6 month per year is the max and then you need a B-2 with interview. We bought a place on Floridas gulf coast after living in Spain a few years. Winter weather is perfect there. We took 2 dogs and a cat with us. Costly and logistical nightmare:eek: One of the dogs had a bad reaction flying back so we never did the 6 months anymore. We just did a couple of 3 week stints after that. Taxes are high but you get a lot of house for your money. We rent it out long term now and the rental return is good.

If they ever get around to bringing out a retirement visa we would be there as quick as saying Virgin Atlantic:rofl:

BTW. we just booked flights to Miami..£980 for two people in December, not bad!

Were you able to get travel/healthcare insurance for 6 months when travelling to the US?

sconie Sep 16th 2012 3:48 am

Re: A place in the UK + Spain + Let in Florida ?
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10283661)
There is no way you can get into the USA permanently. 6 month per year is the max and then you need a B-2 with interview. We bought a place on Floridas gulf coast after living in Spain a few years. Winter weather is perfect there. We took 2 dogs and a cat with us. Costly and logistical nightmare:eek: One of the dogs had a bad reaction flying back so we never did the 6 months anymore. We just did a couple of 3 week stints after that. Taxes are high but you get a lot of house for your money. We rent it out long term now and the rental return is good.

If they ever get around to bringing out a retirement visa we would be there as quick as saying Virgin Atlantic:rofl:

BTW. we just booked flights to Miami..£980 for two people in December, not bad!

Yes, the often rumored "Retirement Visa" we have all grown old waiting for this....LOL, I last heard two republican senators were trying to push this last year, but as with all other attempt it died quietly. It seems they have had enough of us Brits and would rather immigrants that are illegal and make good cheap gardeners and pool men....LOL.

Like yourself though, spending the classic snow-bird months there is definitely on the horizon.

Cheers :drinkwine:

jackytoo Sep 16th 2012 3:50 am

Re: A place in the UK + Spain + Let in Florida ?
 
Yes from a specialist ex-pat insurance place, wasn't too costly either.

missile Sep 16th 2012 4:53 am

Re: A place in the UK + Spain + Let in Florida ?
 

Originally Posted by sconie (Post 10282261)
...., I also motorcycle a lot and I intend to tour more of Europe from our holiday home.

I have biked all over spain and most of europe. You will enjoy it a lot more than a wet weekend on Skye :thumbsup:.

holly_1948 Sep 17th 2012 8:56 pm

Re: A place in the UK + Spain + Let in Florida ?
 
Ever researched Cuenca, Ecuador?
Cheapest place in the world to live well, by some accounts.

Spanish speaking, culture (museum, opera etc), cook or housekeeper easily affordable. Galapagos. Food. Ex-pat community. US dollar. Climate.
Rent downtown apartment of course, never buy in South America. So if it doesn't work out you just pull up stakes.

jackytoo Sep 17th 2012 9:15 pm

Re: A place in the UK + Spain + Let in Florida ?
 
We went to do a recce of Panama as they were saying similar things but we hated it.

holly_1948 Sep 17th 2012 9:47 pm

Re: A place in the UK + Spain + Let in Florida ?
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 10286590)
We went to do a recce of Panama as they were saying similar things but we hated it.

Isn't the Panama climate wretched though?!

However, the Spanish language could be a deal breaker in Cuenca, you won't get along without some.

sconie Sep 17th 2012 9:49 pm

Re: A place in the UK + Spain + Let in Florida ?
 
It's taken me twenty years to convince my wife to try somewhere other than the USA, as she likes her creature comforts, customer service, shopping, cleanliness and a large cup of real coffee in the morning. Spain won't tick all those boxes, and but it offers a better year round climate that Scotland can't offer.

Far flung countries sound nice, but it comes down to ease of access to regular flights as well as health care provision. I am open to suggestions to locations in Spain we should have a look at though, and we will probably end up looking for a turnkey property such as a townhouse, that can be left secure whilst we travel, twenty minutes to the coast, and nice views, and a sun terrace..... Ahhh... Sounds nice.... Lol.

Cuthbert Rizla Sep 17th 2012 10:00 pm

Re: A place in the UK + Spain + Let in Florida ?
 

Originally Posted by sconie (Post 10283127)
Stuboy....
Sorry that's for four of us and flying economy with BA, the eco taxes are turning Florida and other long haul destinations into the old "once in a lifetime" holidays they used to be.

Nigeljay.....
Yep that sounds a familiar Florida story. I gave up on my Florida dream home years ago for all the reasons above, Like I say we will travel there until health reasons stop us, but for now we'll start looking harder at Spain to narrow down where and what we want.

Thanks to all again for your contributions, the only real negative so far seems to be the additional cost of running two properties and still having to pay for monthly rental whilst in Florida, but if we stayed in the UK permanently we would still be renting in Florida anyway, so the extra cost is really the Spanish home, and we benifit from year long sunshine and affordable flights that we can still readily use pre retirement.



Looking at the economics it makes no sense buying a property in Spain and renting one in the USA.
Property prices are going to go nowhere except down in Spain - there's a huge glut of unsold,often unlived-in apartments and the Spanish economy faces years in the doldrums.It's unlikely you'll ever see any return on your investment in your lifetime and could probably lose a lot of money.
In Florida, however, the property crash has been and gone and prices are beginning to climb once again.
Plus, let's be frank, much of Spain is like Southend-on-Sea whereas the States is vast,diverse and,particularly in Florida,only a short flight from the Caribbean.
I invested in a place just south of Tampa on the Gulf Coast and picked up a property that was 60% down on its previous sale price.Its value is already on the way up.
It only needs to be rented two months a year to cover all costs
My plan when I retire is Spring and Autumn in Florida, rent in the Canaries over the winter and alternate between Ireland/UK where I have places the rest of the time.
I really think anyone thinking of purchasing anywhere in Spain is,frankly,bonkers.
Hope this helps.

steviedeluxe Sep 17th 2012 10:07 pm

Re: A place in the UK + Spain + Let in Florida ?
 

Plus, let's be frank, much of Spain is like Southend-on-Sea
:rofl: I think we have an outstanding winner for most nonsensical statement of the year

http://spainparador.com/JPEGS/Cuenca...uses-night.jpg

http://www.apartmentbarcelona.com/bl...rips-Spain.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi..._Salamanca.JPG

http://www.turismosantillanadelmar.c...sanvicente.jpg

jackytoo Sep 17th 2012 10:10 pm

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Cuthburt. Want to borrow my tin hat;):lol:

You can put glorious tourist photos of anywhere in the world...people live in places and never see them, means nothing!

cricketman Sep 17th 2012 10:18 pm

Re: A place in the UK + Spain + Let in Florida ?
 

Originally Posted by Cuthbert Rizla (Post 10286639)
Looking at the economics it makes no sense buying a property in Spain and renting one in the USA.
Property prices are going to go nowhere except down in Spain - there's a huge glut of unsold,often unlived-in apartments and the Spanish economy faces years in the doldrums.It's unlikely you'll ever see any return on your investment in your lifetime and could probably lose a lot of money.
In Florida, however, the property crash has been and gone and prices are beginning to climb once again.
Plus, let's be frank, much of Spain is like Southend-on-Sea whereas the States is vast,diverse and,particularly in Florida,only a short flight from the Caribbean.
I invested in a place just south of Tampa on the Gulf Coast and picked up a property that was 60% down on its previous sale price.Its value is already on the way up.
It only needs to be rented two months a year to cover all costs
My plan when I retire is Spring and Autumn in Florida, rent in the Canaries over the winter and alternate between Ireland/UK where I have places the rest of the time.
I really think anyone thinking of purchasing anywhere in Spain is,frankly,bonkers.
Hope this helps.

So speaks the voice of ignorance

You have more diversity in Spain than you have in the whole of the US. Certainly in terms of culture, politics, food, languages and architecture. Spain actually has a similar amount of weather systems and geographical diversity as the whole of the US as well, acting like a "mini-continental system". Although nothing as spectacular as the Grand Canyon and Niagara falls

Still not bad for a country that is only as big as some US states

Domino Sep 17th 2012 10:21 pm

Re: A place in the UK + Spain + Let in Florida ?
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 10286663)
So speaks the voice of ignorance

You have more diversity in Spain than you have in the whole of the US. Certainly in terms of culture, politics, food, languages and architecture. Spain actually has a similar amount of weather systems and geographical diversity as the whole of the US as well, acting like a "mini-continental system". Although nothing as spectacular as the Grand Canyon and Niagara falls

Still not bad for a country that is only as big as some US states

says someone from a country smaller than the state of Texas


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