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poshnbucks Aug 4th 2008 12:10 pm

Re: Place in the Sun has a lot to answer for
 

Originally Posted by Fortaleza (Post 6643855)
Well done for getting us all back on topic :thumbup:

Unfortunately there are too many people like you say who are - well gullible is not the best word, eager to believe is probably the best way. They hear what they want to hear, and I'm afraid not everyone will have asked those mental questions as you did, instead they are already mentally decorating their new home and planning their first barbie!

My original point is that these types of programmes showed that you didn't necessarily have to be on a high income to be able to afford property in Spain. This is true, and with the favourable exchange rates at the time, it was relatively easy to do and very enticing for many I'm sure. However, the ability to buy is only one component of the story. Living here and having to find a sustainable income is a lot different, and I'm afraid to say that I've seen too many who didn't make that mental leap - or at least didn't give too much thought to it - when watching those shows.

So we saw here a massive influx of Brits, and now we are seeing them peel away (no pun intended).

Interesting footnote: the couple who appeared in one of the earlier Place in the Sun shows and feature in the book who moved to the Costa de la Luz are now back in Blighty

I wonder why we never hear of the plight of the returning Brits, Did they manage to return to their former employ and get back on the housing ladder.With regards the builders that returned did they do back to their former lives as god knows what. They have never or to date have not made a programme about returning Brits but you never know watch your screens .... I am a builder get me outta here :o:o

anna58 Aug 4th 2008 7:31 pm

Re: Place in the Sun has a lot to answer for
 
[I]Its also interesting that a large number of Indians are moving bact to India for a better quality of life and better child education!!

Here I am butting in from Portugal, but I visited India in the winter, and I couldn't understand how Indian people with a house to sell in England and a pension didn't sell up and go and live like kings there as a lot of Brits we met have, renting annually and living 6 months in winter in constant 80F making side trips to exotic places with the driver and car they could afford to hire for 3 or 4 days for the price of a London taxi.

bil Aug 4th 2008 8:24 pm

Re: Place in the Sun has a lot to answer for
 

Originally Posted by poshnbucks (Post 6645987)
I wonder why we never hear of the plight of the returning Brits, Did they manage to return to their former employ and get back on the housing ladder.With regards the builders that returned did they do back to their former lives as god knows what. They have never or to date have not made a programme about returning Brits but you never know watch your screens .... I am a builder get me outta here :o:o

They actually did do something similar.

toyboy23 Aug 4th 2008 9:44 pm

Re: Place in the Sun has a lot to answer for
 

Originally Posted by Nosherlot (Post 6645138)
…there seems to be an opinion (pages 1 and 2) that everyone is failing because they are being completely unrealistic, don't want to learn Spanish and are all either spending all day by their pools pickled in rum and cokes or glued to Eastenders in ghettos of englishness and expecting to walk into a well paid job. We are not all like that.....
OK rant over.....sorry, don't mean to offend.

No apols necessary, it’s your POV. Heck, this is one of the more balanced ‘returning home’ threads on BE. I think change ‘everyone is failing’ to ‘some are failing’ though. Crikey, how many are failing in the UK currently?

You, like me, are obviously planning ahead carefully. I recall a TV prog where two couples were heading for Spain to set up in a business, a B&B I think. They packed up ridiculously quickly, and then one of their vans blew up not very far into France. The relationships weren’t helped by the fact that one out of each couple were ‘exes’ either. By the time they eventually reached Spain the couples had completely changed their plans. So that idea lasted 3 or 4 days…


Originally Posted by poshnbucks (Post 6645987)
I wonder why we never hear of the plight of the returning Brits, Did they manage to return to their former employ and get back on the housing ladder.With regards the builders that returned did they do back to their former lives as god knows what. They have never or to date have not made a programme about returning Brits but you never know watch your screens .... I am a builder get me outta here :o:o

Well to follow on from PITS they’ve already done property disasters in the sun. Shouldn’t be too long, the UK meeja just love wallowing in misery. Do you think it’s the good builders that end up going back? Or people good in other trades for that matter? I have a suspicion it’s a question of ‘couldn’t crack it in the UK’ so let’s ‘have a go in Spain’.


and I couldn't understand how Indian people with a house to sell in England and a pension didn't sell up and go and live like kings there
Witout wishing to stray too far from the thread topic, there are huge problems with corrupt authorities and jealous natives that make this very difficult.

Rotor Aug 4th 2008 9:58 pm

Re: Place in the Sun has a lot to answer for
 
" I have a suspicion it’s a question of ‘couldn’t crack it in the UK’ so let’s ‘have a go in Spain’."

I think your right,and I will say that if you cant make it in the UK then you have absolutley ZERO chance in Spain, Ive had over 20 years in business in the UK ,successfull 95% of the time, now in business in Spain and finding it very difficult, I think one of my mistakes is to do everything above board!! as most competitors dont!!

Rgds

Rotor

baz259 Aug 4th 2008 10:33 pm

Re: Place in the Sun has a lot to answer for
 
Hi, yes people do seem to believe the dream but why not. The UK seems to be getting sadder by the day. I say this in anger at what our leaders have done to my homeland. But I must say that in the region of Denia where I live, there are plenty of Brits, but in the fifteen years I have been here only two have gone back to the UK and that was through health problems. Admittedly most here are early retirees and have pensions.
Barry

betris Aug 5th 2008 5:32 am

Re: Place in the Sun has a lot to answer for
 

Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 6647005)
" I have a suspicion it’s a question of ‘couldn’t crack it in the UK’ so let’s ‘have a go in Spain’."

I think your right,and I will say that if you cant make it in the UK then you have absolutley ZERO chance in Spain, Ive had over 20 years in business in the UK ,successfull 95% of the time, now in business in Spain and finding it very difficult, I think one of my mistakes is to do everything above board!! as most competitors dont!!

Rgds

Rotor

oh rotor,you never do anything above board if you can help it.they always screw the legitamate ones as they have more to loose. like the honest motorist or the honest worker.

andyrich666 Aug 5th 2008 6:40 am

Re: Place in the Sun has a lot to answer for
 

Originally Posted by bil (Post 6641343)
It's a very different way of life.

People in the UK are badly educated from day one, I live on a horrible estate where all people do is phone up the council, phone the police, phone the tax people etc etc, The goverment has allowed and caused this to happen, people dont want to intergrate in the UK anymore, if they see someone doing better (keep up with the jones's syndrome) or they take a dislike too all they do is get on the phone and grass them up or report them for this that and the other. You can bet your bottom dollar that you live in a place in a street in Spain and what people get up to is down to them, they will have there own thoughts on the matter but will still acknowledge you and most of them just get on with life as people should.

I wouldnt put that down to where I live it happens all over in all different communities.

I always try and say hello to everyone I come across if I can, its my nature to try and be jolly, some people dont reply , some look at you as if your about to rape them, its the way people are educated, educated with shit so you become treated like shit, rant over

betris Aug 5th 2008 9:07 am

Re: Place in the Sun has a lot to answer for
 
[QUOTE=andyrich666;6648582]People in the UK are badly educated from day one, I live on a horrible estate where all people do is phone up the council, phone the police, phone the tax people etc etc, The goverment has allowed and caused this to happen, people dont want to intergrate in the UK anymore, if they see someone doing better (keep up with the jones's syndrome) or they take a dislike too all they do is get on the phone and grass them up or report them for this that and the other.



I know the nosy the type.Ive had my dole stoped a few times aswell.

sensationalfrog Aug 5th 2008 11:13 am

Re: Place in the Sun has a lot to answer for
 

Originally Posted by andyrich666 (Post 6648582)
People in the UK are badly educated from day one, I live on a horrible estate where all people do is phone up the council, phone the police, phone the tax people etc etc, The goverment has allowed and caused this to happen, people dont want to intergrate in the UK anymore, if they see someone doing better (keep up with the jones's syndrome) or they take a dislike too all they do is get on the phone and grass them up or report them for this that and the other. You can bet your bottom dollar that you live in a place in a street in Spain and what people get up to is down to them, they will have there own thoughts on the matter but will still acknowledge you and most of them just get on with life as people should.

I wouldnt put that down to where I live it happens all over in all different communities.

I always try and say hello to everyone I come across if I can, its my nature to try and be jolly, some people dont reply , some look at you as if your about to rape them, its the way people are educated, educated with shit so you become treated like shit, rant over

try running a bar down fuengirola port then,they have amongst themselves ruined a good sunday afternoons trade by bickering,untrained idiots the lot of them

betris Aug 5th 2008 11:37 am

Re: Place in the Sun has a lot to answer for
 

Originally Posted by sensationalfrog (Post 6649453)
try running a bar down fuengirola port then,they have amongst themselves ruined a good sunday afternoons trade by bickering,untrained idiots the lot of them

you always get that with a few of the english.at the end of the day the few always spoil it for every one including thenselves.

toyboy23 Aug 6th 2008 2:47 am

Re: Place in the Sun has a lot to answer for
 

Originally Posted by sensationalfrog (Post 6649453)
try running a bar down fuengirola port then,they have amongst themselves ruined a good sunday afternoons trade by bickering,untrained idiots the lot of them

Are you telling me there’s training involved in running a bar?

That’s my business plan ruined then… :D

Fortaleza Aug 6th 2008 2:54 am

Re: Place in the Sun has a lot to answer for
 
I suspect he means "untrained" in the life sense not the bar!!!


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