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HBG Jul 21st 2011 7:53 pm

To panic or not to panic?
 
After reading this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...onella-UK.html

I checked my fridge. I've got some eggs, bought in Mercadona yesterday, which have a code which is only two numbers out from the ones published in the mail.

What to do?

steviedeluxe Jul 21st 2011 8:02 pm

Re: To panic or not to panic?
 
According to the article you link to (even if it is the DM) the eggs all come from one source, and the problem's been dealt with


The flock of hens at the centre of the outbreak have been culled and their sheds are being cleaned.

The FSA said: ‘These eggs were mainly supplied to catering establishments. No further eggs from the implicated batch have been distributed by the UK company.

But I do like the spin being presented as clean UK food industry once again being threatened by cheap imports. Yes, that industry of BSE and (yes) salmonella. What was it Edwina said? "most of Britain's egg production is infected by the salmonella bacteria" Luckily for all of us, she was incorrect.

jackytoo Jul 21st 2011 8:34 pm

Re: To panic or not to panic?
 
According to a report last year all spanish eggs are infected although they are fine if cooked. Runny boiled eggs aren't recommended. Many spanish restaurants used to make their own mayonaisse but now prohibited.

steviedeluxe Jul 21st 2011 8:37 pm

Re: To panic or not to panic?
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 9511273)
According to a report last year all spanish eggs are infected although they are fine if cooked. Runny boiled eggs aren't recommended. Many spanish restaurants used to make their own mayonaisse but now prohibited.

So the British tests on eggs are 100% ineffective then (as Spanish eggs are still being imported) ? You must have zero confidence in British methods.

jackytoo Jul 21st 2011 8:51 pm

Re: To panic or not to panic?
 
I buy mine locally from a small farm. Lets say I am as confident eating eggs in the UK as I am in Spain. I am just amazed that the UK carries in buying from Spain when the salmonella has been around for at least a few years. Tiem they started labelling country of origin so that consumers can make their own choice.

Fred James Jul 21st 2011 9:07 pm

Re: To panic or not to panic?
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 9511296)
Tiem they started labelling country of origin so that consumers can make their own choice.

It seems they do. The codes that the DM quoted started with ES. I checked ours and they also were labelled the same way.

It seems that all eggs must be labelled in a certain way

http://www.warwickshire.gov.uk/corpo...1?OpenDocument

I don't know what rules apply to packaging but these were eggs supplied to the catering trade so presumably retail packaging rules would not apply.

Domino Jul 21st 2011 10:59 pm

Re: To panic or not to panic?
 

Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 9511227)
According to the article you link to (even if it is the DM) the eggs all come from one source, and the problem's been dealt with



But I do like the spin being presented as clean UK food industry once again being threatened by cheap imports. Yes, that industry of BSE and (yes) salmonella. What was it Edwina said? "most of Britain's egg production is infected by the salmonella bacteria" Luckily for all of us, she was incorrect.

I thought Edwina was right and that salmonella was present in all eggs, it depends on the strain. She got hit by the wording of the statement.

I cannot imagine Tesco being dictated to over where they will source their food from. Price means PROFIT.

steviedeluxe Jul 21st 2011 11:12 pm

Re: To panic or not to panic?
 

I cannot imagine Tesco being dictated to over where they will source their food from. Price means PROFIT.
Well yes. I imagine that if Dave receives a call from the top knob at Tesco, he listens.

Domino Jul 21st 2011 11:22 pm

Re: To panic or not to panic?
 

Originally Posted by steviedeluxe (Post 9511520)
Well yes. I imagine that if Dave receives a call from the top knob at Tesco, he listens.

I am getting the impression that if Dave receives a call from anyone he listens.

Even that nice man Nick Whats-his-name doesn't seem to be talking to him either - or to anyone else

Domino Jul 21st 2011 11:32 pm

Re: To panic or not to panic?
 
surely the problem with such foodstuffs is the way they are stored and transported. with the high temperatures in Spain and recently in Uk any bugs will carry on growing, especially if just stored in a stuffy warehouse and or high temp kitchen

with the short life span of an egg surely it is better to use locally produced product ??

steviedeluxe Jul 21st 2011 11:54 pm

Re: To panic or not to panic?
 

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 9511547)
surely the problem with such foodstuffs is the way they are stored and transported. with the high temperatures in Spain and recently in Uk any bugs will carry on growing, especially if just stored in a stuffy warehouse and or high temp kitchen

with the short life span of an egg surely it is better to use locally produced product ??

I think that stage is long and gone, especially in the UK. Many products are flown in from Africa or even as far as south America. But having said that, organisations like Tesco do spend a lot of effort on keeping food standards high, and with good reason - they'd lose a lot of customers if they ever allowed dodgy supplies into their supermarkets. I don't particularly like Tesco for the way they treat some of their suppiers, but I can't fault their keenness to maintain food standards.

jackytoo Jul 22nd 2011 12:05 am

Re: To panic or not to panic?
 
I bought a spray of flowers for a birthday yesterday, from Waitrose. They were flown in from Africa. Don't mind supporting third world countries, better than giving money to those crooked charities. Kenyan fine green beans are nice too:)

I do draw the line though at importing dubious foodstuffs.

Domino Jul 22nd 2011 12:26 am

Re: To panic or not to panic?
 

Originally Posted by jackytoo (Post 9511609)
I bought a spray of flowers for a birthday yesterday, from Waitrose. They were flown in from Africa. Don't mind supporting third world countries, better than giving money to those crooked charities. Kenyan fine green beans are nice too:)

I do draw the line though at importing dubious foodstuffs.

surely you draw the line at slave wages in 3rd world countries as well ??

how much does it cost to fly things in from Africa - after all cheap as chips Ryanair don't go there (yet)

Kayak Jul 22nd 2011 1:29 am

Re: To panic or not to panic?
 
Don't buy cheap eggs?

Dozens of people had salmonella from eggs from a egg factory in Zaragoza, the chickens where found to be in such as bad state, no feathers sitting in their own faeces etc

Mercadonna do good free range eggs and so does Carrefour in the brown boxes from Galicia. See how tough the shells are compared to the factory farmed ones!


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