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Outdoor industry in Spain
We are currently thinking of moving to Spain with the intention (if all goes well) of buying a property with attached B+B or bunkhouse to rent out, catering to climbers, hikers, mountain bikers and anyone who doesn't expect too much from their accommodation. :cool:
I know plenty of people in the UK who go to Spain for the outdoor scene and have been there climbing myself, so I know there is a market for cheap and basic accommodation. We are after any information we can find on the best areas for such a venture, any legal matters involving guest accommodation or any info at all on bunkhouse type accommodation or the outdoor scene in general. :thumbup: Many thanks, Cragdog |
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well spainthe place off Outdoor industry in spain , weather is 905 good all the time from bird watching to surfing
B&B will you have to have nice place with pool for you payying heads and some to do at the day time if that dont want to going out hill walking are what every you offering dont for get there a turn down all over the world so think have slow down this year and FIGs wont be good out spain this year jurdy best off luck |
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Anything to do with buying property in Spain requires you be aware of a lot of things.
The Spanish property market has been hit by a never ending stream of bad news involving corruption scandals, illegal building, demolition threats, land grabs, over-development, dishonest and corrupt estate agents, corrupt and incompetent lawyers, tales of huge, obscene commissions and countless stories from unhappy owners, buyers, and investors. With newsgroups, bulletin boards, web sites and much of the British and European media now bored witless by the sheer weight of complaints about Spanish property there can be few today who when considering buying a house abroad consider Spain for long if at all. For many - foreigners and Spaniards alike, buying a property in Spain has proved to be akin to playing hopscotch on a minefield. Do not for one moment believe you are protected by law - you aren't. Do not believe for one moment that because you don't know, asking a lawyer will obviate you from the responsibility of knowing. It won't. Don't believe for one moment that instructing a lawyer to represent you is going to do the trick. As often as not, lawyers in Spain are part of the problem as opposed to part of the solution. Be very aware of estate agents - the property you buy may be carrying a huge commission for them. Insist on meeting the vendor and have with you someone who can speak Spanish. (SNIP) |
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Originally Posted by Jonti
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Anything to do with buying property in Spain requires you be aware of a lot of things.
The Spanish property market has been hit by a never ending stream of bad news involving corruption scandals, illegal building, demolition threats, land grabs, over-development, dishonest and corrupt estate agents, corrupt and incompetent lawyers, tales of huge, obscene commissions and countless stories from unhappy owners, buyers, and investors. With newsgroups, bulletin boards, web sites and much of the British and European media now bored witless by the sheer weight of complaints about Spanish property there can be few today who when considering buying a house abroad consider Spain for long if at all. For many - foreigners and Spaniards alike, buying a property in Spain has proved to be akin to playing hopscotch on a minefield. Do not for one moment believe you are protected by law - you aren't. Do not believe for one moment that because you don't know, asking a lawyer will obviate you from the responsibility of knowing. It won't. Don't believe for one moment that instructing a lawyer to represent you is going to do the trick. As often as not, lawyers in Spain are part of the problem as opposed to part of the solution. Be very aware of estate agents - the property you buy may be carrying a huge commission for them. Insist on meeting the vendor and have with you someone who can speak Spanish. (SNIP) Good Luck Rotor |
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Budget accommodation is far more dependent on budget flights than upmarket tourism. Be aware that if Ryanair (or, any other budget operator) pull their flights from Granada it will affect your business. Presently, I think things are looking good for the next Two years at least and there's always Malaga airport, but rising fuel costs are going to affect flight prices eventually.
Check out the competition. There are several options for outdoor activity holidays in the area already. Also, remember that July and August are far to hot for outdoor recreation. On the plus side, the Sierra Nevada offers skiing through the winter. People I know in the area who offer accommodation of the type you mention use the income as a secondary bonus rather than a full time business option. Plenty of other people offering accommodation plus guides and teachers for all outdoor activities. I currently know of Three people who came over here as climbing guides/instructors who are now unemployed. Any start-up, tourism business that is going to survive in a recession needs to find a niché and charge for it! Strange as it may seem, budget offerings will be the first to suffer. Those that do well will be those that offer luxury, or something unique and charge vast amounts for it. The rich will always be rich and will always take holidays. The rest of us will have to tighten out belts. |
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How do I leave this forum. There does not seem to be anywhere to resign.
Jonti |
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There are literally thousands who are planning/have a B&B. It may sound ok. but from the ones I know it is about one of the fastest ways to ruin after buying a bar! The market is saturated.
You are soon throwing your toys out of the pram Jonti...I would just not post anymore if I wanted to leave! |
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Originally Posted by jackytoo
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There are literally thousands who are planning/have a B&B. It may sound ok. but from the ones I know it is about one of the fastest ways to ruin after buying a bar! The market is saturated.
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Originally Posted by Jonti
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How do I leave this forum. There does not seem to be anywhere to resign.
Jonti Why do you want to leave :) If you feel you must then just dont post here again, it amounts to the same thing. |
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Originally Posted by Jonti
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How do I leave this forum. There does not seem to be anywhere to resign.
Jonti |
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What is the point in repeating what has already been said other than to hear the sound of your own voice. Mind you, looking at the amount of postings and the area you live I suppose there is not much else for you to do is there.
For your information, I published information of assistance to anyone who may be having problems with housing here in Spain and which showed others contemplating purchasing a property what the problems are and where they lay. As a URL on which this information was to be found was deemed a "commercial" whatever, the posting was censored. I don't agree with censorship particularly where trying to help people is concerned and have no desire to contribute to an inflexible commercial organisation which leaches contributions at no cost and then unnecessarily censors them. As to the value of my postings, having read a few of yours I can see why you would wish to discourage anyone able to string 3 letters together. Jd |
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Originally Posted by Jonti
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What is the point in repeating what has already been said other than to hear the sound of your own voice. Mind you, looking at the amount of postings and the area you live I suppose there is not much else for you to do is there.
For your information, I published information of assistance to anyone who may be having problems with housing here in Spain and which showed others contemplating purchasing a property what the problems are and where they lay. As a URL on which this information was to be found was deemed a "commercial" whatever, the posting was censored. I don't agree with censorship particularly where trying to help people is concerned and have no desire to contribute to an inflexible commercial organisation which leaches contributions at no cost and then unnecessarily censors them. As to the value of my postings, having read a few of yours I can see why you would wish to discourage anyone able to string 3 letters together. Jd This way then you would of realized that unsolicited advertising is not allowed and you wouldn`t of had a slight problem. Site Rules |
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With the greatest of respect, I posted the information I did because several people with demolition orders on their properties had them lifted and I wanted to draw attention to the fact that where orders of demolition exist not all is lost. I have since heard that a further 1,300 demolition orders placed on Catral properties have also been lifted. It was not my intention to join an expat community chat group but even so, it is reasonable to assume that the average such organisation would wish to make information available which would benefit its membership.
However, in fairness this is a commercial organisation and I have no doubt that it has had its fill of members offering advice to newbies which in the final analysis consisted of little more than where they were and why money should be sent their way. Although not interested, there is a legal obligation to remove all information held on any person in the European Union by any commercial organisation if that person should request its removal. On another point, advertisers will look at the membership and based upon what they see will decide whether or not to advertise. This group claims thousands of members but if the only way of leaving the group is not to post another message then it may well be that the dozen regular posters are in fact the entire membership - which is usually the case. Regards Jonti |
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I thought you had gone:huh: Are you just a little peeved because you couldn't advertise something!
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Originally Posted by Jonti
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With the greatest of respect, I posted the information I did because several people with demolition orders on their properties had them lifted and I wanted to draw attention to the fact that where orders of demolition exist not all is lost. I have since heard that a further 1,300 demolition orders placed on Catral properties have also been lifted. It was not my intention to join an expat community chat group but even so, it is reasonable to assume that the average such organisation would wish to make information available which would benefit its membership.
However, in fairness this is a commercial organisation and I have no doubt that it has had its fill of members offering advice to newbies which in the final analysis consisted of little more than where they were and why money should be sent their way. Although not interested, there is a legal obligation to remove all information held on any person in the European Union by any commercial organisation if that person should request its removal. On another point, advertisers will look at the membership and based upon what they see will decide whether or not to advertise. This group claims thousands of members but if the only way of leaving the group is not to post another message then it may well be that the dozen regular posters are in fact the entire membership - which is usually the case. Regards Jonti 12 `s into 1,954 online goes more than once, so there are a few more than a dozen members. |
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