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Old Dec 4th 2018, 1:23 pm
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Latest press Release from British Embassy Madrid:

An open letter from HMA Simon Manley to British nationals living in Spain

I wanted to update you on the recent developments on our exit from the EU. As many of you are no doubt aware, on Sunday 25th November, there was a special European Council on Brexit. EU leaders agreed the Withdrawal Agreement and Political Declaration on the future relationship between the UK and EU.

Citizens’ rights is a key part of the agreement, so this represents a big step forward in providing certainty for UK nationals living in Spain. As the PM said following the European Council “If you are one of the over 3 million EU citizens who has come and built your life in the UK - come to be our colleagues, our neighbours and our friends - you need a deal that guarantees your rights. If you are one of the almost 1 million UK nationals living elsewhere in the EU, you need the same. This deal delivers for you all.”

The next stage is for the UK Parliament to vote on the deal the Government has negotiated, which is expected on the 11th of December. The European Parliament will also vote on the agreement.

If approved, the Withdrawal Agreement will secure the rights of 1 million UK nationals living in the EU. It means that the 300,000 British people who have chosen to make Spain their home have a legal guarantee that they will be allowed to stay here after the UK leaves the EU on 29 March 2019.

The Agreement also defines the Implementation Period as running from 30 March 2019 and until 31 December 2020. All UK nationals lawfully residing in Spain on 31 December 2020 will be covered by the Withdrawal Agreement. Under the current rules, UK nationals living in Spain must register with the Spanish authorities (at the Oficina de Extranjeros or at a designated local police station) to be legally resident here. Therefore, I and the team strongly recommend you ensure you are correctly registered as a resident, as is your current obligation. For detailed advice on registering, please see gov.uk/living-in-spain. We will, of course, update our advice if the Spanish authorities announce any changes to the registration requirements linked to Brexit.

During the Implementation Period, you will be able to visit, live and work in the EU broadly as you do now. If you want to move to a different Member State, you will be able to do so during the Implementation Period.

UK nationals and their families covered by the Agreement will continue to have broadly the same access to healthcare, pensions and other benefits as they currently do. And you will be able to leave Spain for up to five years without losing your right to return if you have acquired the relevant residency status. If you have any questions about who is covered by the Withdrawal Agreement, please see the UK nationals living in the EU pages on gov.uk.

Next steps
  • Make sure you are correctly registered with Extranjeria here in Spain (please see gov.uk/living-in-spain)
  • Sign up for email alerts to stay up to date and find out about our outreach events, by visiting the Living in Spain guide on gov.uk.
  • Follow our “Brits in Spain” social media channels, including on facebook.
Both the Embassy and our network of consulates will continue with outreach events across Spain to answer your questions about your rights and Brexit, with three events planned before Christmas and more planned for the new year. And we will continue to update you with key information in the months ahead. In the meantime, I would like to wish all British nationals living in Spain, a very merry Christmas.

Contact: Debbi Christophers - British Embassy Press Department. Tel number: +34 91 714 6310

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It should be noted that today three important Brexit votes were lost by the government the one about the legal advice on the agreement could be particularly important. The legal advisor to the ECJ ALSO PUBLISHED HIS ADVICE TO THE COURT THAT U.K. COULD UNILATERALLY WITHDRAW ARTICLE 50
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Originally Posted by EsuriJohn
It should be noted that today three important Brexit votes were lost by the government the one about the legal advice on the agreement could be particularly important. The legal advisor to the ECJ ALSO PUBLISHED HIS ADVICE TO THE COURT THAT U.K. COULD UNILATERALLY WITHDRAW ARTICLE 50
It’s all straw clutching unless there’s a new Act of Parliament.
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
It’s all straw clutching unless there’s a new Act of Parliament.
That comes after The People’s Vote.
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Originally Posted by EsuriJohn
That comes after The People’s Vote.
Which also requires an Act of Parliament.
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Which also requires an Act of Parliament.
Which comes after “the deal” is voted down.
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
unless there’s a new Act of Parliament.
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Which also requires an Act of Parliament.
Because that's how democracy works. Not by the unilateral decision of the PM to implement whatever he/she wants....
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Which comes after “the deal” is voted down.
When the government controls the legislative timetable, there is no majority for a second referendum and no time for the Electoral Commission to organise one? Good luck with that.

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Because that's how democracy works. Not by the unilateral decision of the PM to implement whatever he/she wants....
Indeed and thanks to Mrs Miller we’re leaving on 29 March, deal or no deal.
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When the government controls the legislative timetable, there is no majority for a second referendum and no time for the Electoral Commission to organise one? Good luck with that.
I understand that A50 can be extended or revoked if both sides agree.

Indeed and thanks to Mrs Miller we’re leaving on 29 March, deal or no deal.
Or not, If that's the course Parliament decides.
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I understand that A50 can be extended or revoked if both sides agree.
It can. It won’t.

Or not, If that's the course Parliament decides.
How?
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The legal opinion is that it can be revoked unilaterally by UK, to be confirmed by the ECJ next week!
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
It can. It won’t.
It might be.

How?
Withdrawing the A50 notification.

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The legal opinion is that it can be revoked unilaterally by UK, to be confirmed by the ECJ next week!


Thanks!
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Originally Posted by EsuriJohn
The legal opinion is that it can be revoked unilaterally by UK, to be confirmed by the ECJ next week!
A pointless exercise given the EU has always made it clear it would be very happy to cancel Brexit.
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Originally Posted by DaveLovesDee
It might be.
A lot of things might be. Why would the EU agree to it?

Withdrawing the A50 notification.
That doesn’t work without an Act of Parliament. Try again.
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Originally Posted by BritInParis
That doesn’t work without an Act of Parliament. Try again.
Which Parliament could pass if they chose that path.
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