NIE HELL(P!)
 

Hello!

I hope someone can help me, I have looked endlessly online but as usual the information regarding NIE's are outdated or irrelevant.

I came to Barcelona hoping to find a job and start a life here. Not aiming high, a bar job or call centre, the usual expat first job!

I attained a NIE after much hassle and stress tears, however after no luck and money drying up I took a job as an Au Pair near the city so that I could stay and try again when the city gets busier.

However my NIE is now expired as they are only valid for 3 months.
Is it possible to renew it? I can't find any information on this.

I can't get a job without one, but it seems like I can't get one without a job, especially when it comes to renewing! It seems like I missed my chance :(

As an EU national, I would not want to have to work illegally, but they don't make it easy for foreigners! There must be a way to work around the system? All I want to do is work and pay taxes!

Any help or advice would be great.

Re: NIE HELL(P!)
 

your NIE won't expire, just the bit of paper

if yours has expired then I'm guessing that you've been here over 3 months?

then you need to register as resident - & yes, you will need to show proof of income or funds in the bank for that

no, they don't make it easy - but the whole reason for that is to stop people coming here who are unable to support themselves, because Spain won't/can't support anyone else!

sounds harsh - but that's just the way it is

you have a NIE number - so if someone offers you a job just tell them the number

if you have funds to support yourself, then go register as resident - the resident cert doesn't expire

Re: NIE HELL(P!)
 

Your NIE is for life. I think the information below is correct.

The green Certificate of Registration for EU foreigners. That does not need renewing.

An NIE certificate is white and does not need renewing.

The only certificate that I am aware of that is only valid for 3 months is a Padron certificate and it doesn't actually show an expiry date.

Have a read of this .... https://www.gov.uk/residency-requirements-in-spain

It has some useful information.

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Oopps sorry Lynnxa :)

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Re: NIE HELL(P!)
 

Things have changed in the past year

Now they will only give you a permanent NIE once you are resident. To become resident you need to show that you either have a job or that you have the means to support yourself

So the OP will need to go to the "extranjeria" office (or whatever it is called) with their job contract, then they can become resident and also be liable to apply for social security, a resident bank account etc. If you are an au pair then make sure they are paying your social security otherwise your job isnt legal!

Re: NIE HELL(P!)
 

Are you saying the NIE is not a lifetime number ? well that's news to many if you are right. I have never been advised to have it renewed in any shape or form.


I included the government link for latest information for the op.

Re: NIE HELL(P!)
 

There are a lot of things that may be obligatory that nobody will mention anywhere.

Besides, "we reserve the right to change our minds whoever it suits us without notice".

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For those who move to Spain in the last year, no. They give you a 3 month temporary NIE as I explained until you get residency

Things have completely changed in the past year. It is now quite complicated to become full resident in Spain. As I say, you need to show that you have enough money to provide for yourself, and have healthcare in some shape or form

Otherwise, you can't send your kids to the local school, you cant use state healthcare, you can't even sign a rental contract (if the landlorn is actually giving you a proper legal rental contract)

I'm surprised that there havent been more threads about it

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That's not true

I've set up residency in three different regions of Spain. The process is entirely transparent and consistent, but the rules have changed as I explained

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Good evening. Due to health reasons and availability of a special drug we left Spain last October and returned initially to France and now due to UK family illness here in Wales.

All of the above have now been resolved and whilst in Javea last year registered at the pardon and then at the 'nice place' in Denia for the NIE.

For clarity are these no out of date in that we are looking for a long term rental and return to Javea.

Re: NIE HELL(P!)
 

Just to clarify - your NIE number is for life! Do NOT let anyone tell you otherwise! The paper on which it is printed (if white) is exactly as per the padron in that it only lasts 3 months.

Most areas will renew and issue a new piece of paper providing you give a valid reason. Some will insist that you register as resident - it all depends upon your circumstances and your ability to prove this to the functionario.

To become a 'full resident' is actually VERY simple - you just have to have the necessary proof of income and health cover.

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Or I suppose if one is over 65 an S1?

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It is also possible to obtain a NIE in the Spanish Consulate in London. It is necessary to demonstrate that you have, or intend to have, economic interests with Spain. Opening a Spanish bank account would be sufficient.

If you apply for a NIE in the UK there is no requirement to demonstrate that you are not in Spain in a "situation irregular," for obvious reasons.

http://www.exteriores.gob.es/Embajad...ginas/NIE.aspx

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thanks for that we still have bank accounts in Javea and they are in credit. Once more thanks for the link.

best wishes