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Old Jan 11th 2011, 12:20 pm
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Yay! Went into my local tiny bar yeaterday. The air inside was fresh and there was a table with an ashtray (used) outside. We were the only customers but I could tell no-one had been smoking in the bar recently.

I told the owner I liked the fresh air in his bar. He just looked at me and grunted (he is a smoker himself).

So maybe it DOES work, even in these tiny villages.
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Do find it funny reading some of the anti-smoking posts on here specially when some of the posters advocate the benefits of wood burners.

Even W.H.O. have released reports saying how damaging to health wood smoke is.

http://burningissues.org/car-www/med...06reuters.html

Another quote:-

What we know about the dangers of tobacco smoke can be well applied again here. Wood smoke is chemically active in the body 40 times longer than tobacco smoke. It is 12 times more caciogenic than tobacco smoke and lowers the bodies defense mechanisms for fighting off infections. Just one hour of exposure can lower immune defense 25 to 40 percent. (See burningissues.org for Fact Sheets, Wood Smoke/Tobacco Comparison charts and other backup material.

Makes smoking look almost healthy by comparison!
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Originally Posted by Macman
Do find it funny reading some of the anti-smoking posts on here specially when some of the posters advocate the benefits of wood burners.

Even W.H.O. have released reports saying how damaging to health wood smoke is.

http://burningissues.org/car-www/med...06reuters.html

Another quote:-

What we know about the dangers of tobacco smoke can be well applied again here. Wood smoke is chemically active in the body 40 times longer than tobacco smoke. It is 12 times more caciogenic than tobacco smoke and lowers the bodies defense mechanisms for fighting off infections. Just one hour of exposure can lower immune defense 25 to 40 percent. (See burningissues.org for Fact Sheets, Wood Smoke/Tobacco Comparison charts and other backup material.

Makes smoking look almost healthy by comparison!
If smokers had a 12ft chimney coming out the top of their head and up through the roof then I'd have no problem with them!
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Originally Posted by scampicat
Yay! Went into my local tiny bar yeaterday. The air inside was fresh and there was a table with an ashtray (used) outside. We were the only customers but I could tell no-one had been smoking in the bar recently.

I told the owner I liked the fresh air in his bar. He just looked at me and grunted (he is a smoker himself).

So maybe it DOES work, even in these tiny villages.
See, ye of little faith! You told us it wouldn't happen.
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Old Jan 11th 2011, 2:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
Excellent post scampicat,
Now if all smokers studied and memorised that, it would not only give them a big incentive to stop, but also give them a better understanding of the difficulties they may encounter, in turn making them much better prepared and confident of dealing with them.
Didn't notice the health warning they gave out with the chart!!

WARNING: The below chart is for cold turkey quitters only, not those using quitting products. The chart reflects averages and norms. Do not rely upon this chart as it relates to any behavioral change or symptom if you are using any quit smoking product. If using a product and you or a family member are at all concerned about any change in behavior, depression, aggression or any ongoing symptom contact your physician and pharmacist IMMEDIATELY! If you experience any suicidal thinking, thoughts of wanting to harm or kill others, loss of consciousness, seizure or other serious behavioral change or symptom seek IMMEDIATE EMERGENCY MEDICAL ATTENTION.

Don't you think not printing it is a tad misleading?

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Old Jan 11th 2011, 3:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Bigger Jim
Didn't notice the health warning they gave out with the chart!!

WARNING: The below chart is for cold turkey quitters only, not those using quitting products. The chart reflects averages and norms. Do not rely upon this chart as it relates to any behavioral change or symptom if you are using any quit smoking product. If using a product and you or a family member are at all concerned about any change in behavior, depression, aggression or any ongoing symptom contact your physician and pharmacist IMMEDIATELY! If you experience any suicidal thinking, thoughts of wanting to harm or kill others, loss of consciousness, seizure or other serious behavioral change or symptom seek IMMEDIATE EMERGENCY MEDICAL ATTENTION.

Don't you think not printing it is a tad misleading?


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No, I said it was from the quoted link (so that people could look at all of it if they chose, like you have ) and my emphasis was to show people the benefits of not smoking. Many people DO go cold turkey.

Sorry if people did find it misleading, I thought it was helpful.
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Old Jan 11th 2011, 3:09 pm
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Originally Posted by Macman
Do find it funny reading some of the anti-smoking posts on here specially when some of the posters advocate the benefits of wood burners.

Even W.H.O. have released reports saying how damaging to health wood smoke is.

http://burningissues.org/car-www/med...06reuters.html

Another quote:-

What we know about the dangers of tobacco smoke can be well applied again here. Wood smoke is chemically active in the body 40 times longer than tobacco smoke. It is 12 times more caciogenic than tobacco smoke and lowers the bodies defense mechanisms for fighting off infections. Just one hour of exposure can lower immune defense 25 to 40 percent. (See burningissues.org for Fact Sheets, Wood Smoke/Tobacco Comparison charts and other backup material.

Makes smoking look almost healthy by comparison!


Welcome to the the 'Everything causes Cancer' society. Just think, all we need is the same sort of litigious atmosphere as the States and you too can make a living suing all and sundry for so much as breaking wind in your presence.

The mode seems to be that as the lawyers move in, common sense moves out.
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Originally Posted by Macman
Do find it funny reading some of the anti-smoking posts on here specially when some of the posters advocate the benefits of wood burners.

Even W.H.O. have released reports saying how damaging to health wood smoke is.

http://burningissues.org/car-www/med...06reuters.html

Another quote:-

What we know about the dangers of tobacco smoke can be well applied again here. Wood smoke is chemically active in the body 40 times longer than tobacco smoke. It is 12 times more caciogenic than tobacco smoke and lowers the bodies defense mechanisms for fighting off infections. Just one hour of exposure can lower immune defense 25 to 40 percent. (See burningissues.org for Fact Sheets, Wood Smoke/Tobacco Comparison charts and other backup material.

Makes smoking look almost healthy by comparison!
I think you are slightly grasping at straws.
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Old Jan 11th 2011, 3:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Chiclanagir
I think you are slightly grasping at straws.
I read that as gasping at first glance
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I read that as gasping at first glance
It's a Mondagreen when you hear it wrong. Is there a term for miss-seeing it?
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I suspect (as in the UK) the sales of the local equivalent of patio heaters will rocket...
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Originally Posted by bil
It's a Mondagreen when you hear it wrong. Is there a term for miss-seeing it?
Not sure, but apparently there's such a word as "misspeak", as in Hllary Clintons pack of lies about her "heroic" visit to Bosnia.
Can't believe the Yanks swallowed that one and gave her such a position of power dealing with other nations.
Whose dumb enough to believe a word she says or ever trust her after that one ?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...y-exposed.html
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Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly
Not sure, but apparently there's such a word as "misspeak", as in Hllary Clintons pack of lies about her "heroic" visit to Bosnia.
Can't believe the Yanks swallowed that one and gave her such a position of power dealing with other nations.
Whose dumb enough to believe a word she says or ever trust her after that one ?


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...y-exposed.html

POL-I-TIC-IAN.

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Originally Posted by Chiclanagir
I think you are slightly grasping at straws.
Perhaps but not necessarily.

The Pentagon’s after a faster, more reliable way to fight pandemics and viral terror threats by mass producing vaccines. Darpa, the Pentagon’s blue-sky research arm, handed out $21 million to Canadian biotech firm Medicago Inc. The company, based in Quebec City, will use the money to build a 90,000-square-foot facility that’ll use tobacco plants to produce 10 million monthly doses of influenza vaccine.

Don't shoot the messenger.

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Originally Posted by Bigger Jim
Perhaps but not necessarily.

The Pentagon’s after a faster, more reliable way to fight pandemics and viral terror threats by mass producing vaccines. Darpa, the Pentagon’s blue-sky research arm, handed out $21 million to Canadian biotech firm Medicago Inc. The company, based in Quebec City, will use the money to build a 90,000-square-foot facility that’ll use tobacco plants to produce 10 million monthly doses of influenza vaccine.

Don't shoot the messenger.

Jim
¿Que? No-one says that tobacco plants shouldn't be used for this, just don't smoke the stuff. Adding nicotine to them to make them even more addictive, now that's the crime.
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