Originally Posted by poollounger

Yikes.. let me know when you are driving..I am not getting on any train driven by a woman..nervous enough when the BA flight I took recently was piloted by a female !!
Just kidding... I reckon any woman in those professions had to work so hard to get there she is bound to be better than the men. One of the best sailing instructors I had was also a woman.

Originally Posted by un-mundo

Undeniably!

"I have to admit I probably felt guilty once, but I've fallen foul of the "what difference is me not flying going to make", and I know its wrong. The planes going to go anyway if I'm on it or not.

Well, mitzy, that's a nonsense, of course if there are no or few bookings the airlines will stop running the routes (eek!) . Sooner or later, probably later, prices will go up, inevitably. Fuel prices will rise and the environmental lobby will become more and more powerful - rightly, really, although it will mess up my to-ing and fro-ing from Spain.

I've never flown RyanAir to Spain but having read that pilots over-rule ATC in order to save the company money (what other reason?) in order to land in Dublin, I will
i definitely
never fly with them again. There are some people - Murdoch with Sky and O'Leary with RyanAir - that I will never (again) give my money to, first hand.

His treatment of wheelchair passengers is just indicative of his really spiteful attitude. He's a nasty captain of industry, that's for sure.

Oh, just to add, quite often Monarch, BA, EasyJet and Iberia offer cheaper flights. It's just a case of when you book and how much you search online.

Originally Posted by josephina

Hello PL
I am not sure whether or not to take this as a complement......... the fact that you think i would have to work harder than a man to learn or do the same job makes me wonder if you think women are not quite as capable. Dont worry i am not a feminist and i have worked with men for too long to take offence at what comes from thier tiny brains and out thier mouths.
I am also a very good train driver and i have never had a SPAD.
I am however very bad at directions so it is lucky we dont have steering wheels...... i am still not sure if i will find the new Ikea in Murcia.
J

Originally Posted by Douglas jack

HI,if you as you state have never flown with Ryanair ,how can you comment,as for your remark about wheelchair passengers ,my friend who is wheel chair bound flys ,all the time with Ryanair and has never been badlly treated,in fact he has nothing but praise for the Ryanair service,where do you get your facts from.

Originally Posted by Douglas jack

HI,if you as you state have never flown with Ryanair ,how can you comment,as for your remark about wheelchair passengers ,my friend who is wheel chair bound flys ,all the time with Ryanair and has never been badlly treated,in fact he has nothing but praise for the Ryanair service,where do you get your facts from.

Originally Posted by Douglas jack

HI,if you as you state have never flown with Ryanair ,how can you comment,as for your remark about wheelchair passengers ,my friend who is wheel chair bound flys ,all the time with Ryanair and has never been badlly treated,in fact he has nothing but praise for the Ryanair service,where do you get your facts from.

Originally Posted by un-mundo

If you had read what I had typed, you will note that I said that I had flown RyanAir, once, but not to Spain.

Where do I get my facts from? Well, as has been pointed out to you by other posters, the "wheelchair" incident was widely reported in the press. When it comes to topics relating to aviation, I get my facts from newspapers; a dedicated pilots forum on the internet; my family - who, as I have already said, consist of a father who was an airline pilot and a brother who still is, and finally from personal experience.

Originally Posted by un-mundo

If you had read what I had typed, you will note that I said that I had flown RyanAir, once, but not to Spain.

Where do I get my facts from? Well, as has been pointed out to you by other posters, the "wheelchair" incident was widely reported in the press. When it comes to topics relating to aviation, I get my facts from newspapers; a dedicated pilots forum on the internet; my family - who, as I have already said, consist of a father who was an airline pilot and a brother who still is, and finally from personal experience.

Originally Posted by Nelson1

I'm so with PWWM - am really not keen on Ryanair. I've very rarely noticed them being cheaper than Easyjet, and I'd rather fly with cabin crew that smile!! Also every Ryanair plane (well, plane used by Ryanair, as they often use aircraft from other airlines for their services) has been filthy! But hey, each to their own!!

Originally Posted by poollounger

Great thing about forums isn't it ?? One starts a thread then watches it spin off into all sorts of different areas. PWM is right, the wheelchair issue was well publicised in the British press at the time. When I flew to Jerez in January I had booked a while previous, on my usual early morning flight, which they then cancelled all that week, I expect owing to low bookings, as the evening flight I was transferred to as only half full. We get what we pay for..most of the time Ryanair is perfectly acceptablel...I have booked for June July and am paying £50 return! I agree that Easyjet seems nicer...more leg room etc, and there was a gahstly late night return from Jerez in August when they had not a single piece of loo roll, napkin, paper towel. Serve them right if some passenger had stained their seats!!Their exscuse was that the kids on the flight out had cleaned them out and they did not have time to restock...and the staff just seemed amused and not at all apologetic...and I had paid almost full whack for the flight.

Originally Posted by pwwm

How funny that one or two of you think I live in little England ho ho ho, I live in a Spanish village with Spanish neighbours, have to speak Spanish to the best of my ability, we have maybe, 24 other Brits dotted around.
I do not live in Almeria, It is where I fly to, I live in Granada Province so have the choice of Granada, Malaga or Almeria airports.
Almeria Airport is in the next province for those of you who very obviously do not know the geography of Spain, Malaga is 3 hours run and Almeria just over an hour. Also why say Almeria was built by left over tarmac? I do not understand why you think it is a dump, very pretty, clean and well run airport.
Re when has Ryanair been dearer? well everytime I have checked from Almeria, and any old how, they only go to the pits of Essex, ie Stanstead.
I am extremely good at finding the cheapest deal for those around here, kinda run a booking service for those that do not have computers so I do know who is the cheapest, for those that wish to fly Ryanair fine, I choose not to.
As another post says, you choose to fly with whoever you prefer. But my last trip was with Monarch, and yes I went from Malaga, as the same company and almost same time went from Almeria at nearly four times the price so I got the bus to Malaga at the great price of 12 Euros.

pwwm

Originally Posted by pwwm

Everyone who fly with Ryanair pay a surcharge for wheelchairs, that is whether you use one or not, this was because they refused a chap in a wheelchair some time ago (wanted to charge him an extortionate amount) and there was such an uproar that it is now part of everybody's taxes

Re pilots over ruling ATC I have a friend who is watch controller at a major airport, Ok he got my flight off early when French ATC went of strike, but perks of having friends in "high" places.
But pilots do not, at least under his watch over rule ATC can you imagine the anarchy and collisions that would occur.

pwwm