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Fredbargate Dec 29th 2015 4:37 am

Re: Moving to Spain with 4 children!
 

Originally Posted by Jlb29 (Post 11823459)
I would be quite happy working in a bar on one of the holiday resorts that's Brits go to. That's what my bro in law does.goes out for the summer seasons and works in bars/restaurants. But I'm not too worried

Being flexible is a good approach, I believe nursing jobs are few and far between in Spain

cricketman Dec 29th 2015 4:40 am

Re: Moving to Spain with 4 children!
 

Originally Posted by Jlb29 (Post 11823459)
But I'm sure there are lots of people who go out with the plan to find work in Spain. I would be quite happy working in a bar on one of the holiday resorts that's Brits go to. That's what my bro in law does.goes out for the summer seasons and works in bars/restaurants. But I'm not too worried

The wage for this kind of work is 20-30 euros per night

You really could not maintain any kind of lifestyle on that kind of money

And there are way too many qualified Spanish nurses which is way many go to look for work in the UK

Your husband would have to pay 265 euros per month social security and then IVA and Income taxon all sales. So he would need a very good turnover for his online business!

If you will have 4 kids and thinking of living in the South of Spain then you need to net at least 2,000 euros per month to not be living on the poverty line. Closer to 3,000 would give you a better quality of life

As a reference, we live in a modest flat with 2 kids and spend around 3k each month

Jlb29 Dec 29th 2015 4:42 am

Re: Moving to Spain with 4 children!
 
That's realy useful info thanx. We will have a good look at the finances. Fingers crossed :)

Casa Santo Estevo Dec 29th 2015 4:50 am

Re: Moving to Spain with 4 children!
 
Before everyone reinvents the wheel in going over the same old information, may I please ask you to read the posting history of our new members. Some information you are giving has already been told to them before, hence the the on going research on what affects their situation.

Fred James Dec 29th 2015 6:32 am

Re: Moving to Spain with 4 children!
 

Originally Posted by cricketman (Post 11823484)
And there are way too many qualified Spanish nurses which is way many go to look for work in the UK

Really?

Spain has about half the number of nurses per capita than the rest of the EU - certainly made worse by the number going to work outside Spain.

Fredbargate Dec 29th 2015 6:38 am

Re: Moving to Spain with 4 children!
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 11823567)
Really?

Spain has about half the number of nurses per capita than the rest of the EU - certainly made worse by the number going to work outside Spain.

There are many Spanish nurses and other medical staff in Gibraltar.
All the ones I have spoken say they could not find work in Spain, some had returned from the UK to be nearer their families.

Fred James Dec 29th 2015 8:09 am

Re: Moving to Spain with 4 children!
 
Have a read of this.

Nurse shortages risks lives in Spain | Spain News

Casa Santo Estevo Dec 29th 2015 9:11 am

Re: Moving to Spain with 4 children!
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 11823632)


Dated 3 Mar, 2013 !!!

Fred James Dec 29th 2015 9:14 am

Re: Moving to Spain with 4 children!
 
Yes, and it has got worse since then, particularly in Málaga.

http://www.theolivepress.es/spain-ne...pital-surgery/

Tadd1966 Dec 30th 2015 4:12 am

Re: Moving to Spain with 4 children!
 
HiThere has been lots of good advice so far.
some suggestions
bar work is few and far between and many people looking for work everywhere and is very seasonal and often cash in hand
Suggest you get your nursing qualifications officially translated and signed (notarised) by the Spanish Embassy in UK - it will be quicker than once you are in Spain. A friend of mine who is also a staff nurse had to wait 12 months for an official translation of nursing quals in Spain
As your husband intends to register his business in Spain you will have no problems registering with health care. Without paying into the system here in Spain you will not qualify for state health care
As for schools Spanish schools they are generally very good and IMO best is total immersion and private lessons - suggest you and your private tutor works with the school.
Schools are free and start a 6 yrs old although from 3 you do get free pre school
Start private lessons now for all of you in UK
Please don't rely on the ex pat bi-lingual children to teach your children Spanish in the playground etc. it doesn't work very well
Ex pats can be good but also a distraction as the kids will simply default to speaking English, suggest you join a Spanish club (sports such as football, gymnastics, dance, swimming etc.) and there are many and all reasonable prices
Good luck and keep researching

cricketman Dec 30th 2015 4:29 am

Re: Moving to Spain with 4 children!
 

Originally Posted by Tadd1966 (Post 11824278)
HiThere has been lots of good advice so far.
some suggestions
bar work is few and far between and many people looking for work everywhere and is very seasonal and often cash in hand
Suggest you get your nursing qualifications officially translated and signed (notarised) by the Spanish Embassy in UK - it will be quicker than once you are in Spain. A friend of mine who is also a staff nurse had to wait 12 months for an official translation of nursing quals in Spain
As your husband intends to register his business in Spain you will have no problems registering with health care. Without paying into the system here in Spain you will not qualify for state health care
As for schools Spanish schools they are generally very good and IMO best is total immersion and private lessons - suggest you and your private tutor works with the school.
Schools are free and start a 6 yrs old although from 3 you do get free pre school
Start private lessons now for all of you in UK
Please don't rely on the ex pat bi-lingual children to teach your children Spanish in the playground etc. it doesn't work very well
Ex pats can be good but also a distraction as the kids will simply default to speaking English, suggest you join a Spanish club (sports such as football, gymnastics, dance, swimming etc.) and there are many and all reasonable prices
Good luck and keep researching

Just a note that all schools actually take children from 3 years old, although legally you do not have to send your child to school until they are 6 years old

Casa Santo Estevo Dec 30th 2015 5:50 am

Re: Moving to Spain with 4 children!
 

Originally Posted by Fred James (Post 11823702)
Yes, and it has got worse since then, particularly in Málaga.

Malaga residents waiting longer for hospital surgery | Spain News


Same all over unfortunately. Somehow the cut backs in spending hit the services we all need. Those that we do not. Never seemed to have been hit.

frigilianafreddy Dec 30th 2015 6:06 am

Re: Moving to Spain with 4 children!
 
Spanish tax is a Freakin' nightmare! Far higher than in the UK, allowances are non existent. Do research on tax levels - you will be unpleasantly surprised, although 4 kids gives you benefits.

Rosemary Dec 30th 2015 10:17 pm

Re: Moving to Spain with 4 children!
 

Originally Posted by Jlb29 (Post 11823259)
Hi everyone. My husband and I are considering moving to Spain with the next year. We have only just started researching the idea so I apologise for my naieveity (spelling is not my strong point) lol. Anyway I'm 29 years old and have just been diagnosed with osteoarthritis and feel the warm weather will do me good.....among lots of other reasons for the move. We have 3 children aged 7,5 and 2, and are expecting no4 in June so wouldn't want to move before baby arrives.
I guess my first question is where..... We would want to be around as many expats as possible so the language isn't such a shock to the children. We would be looking at a long term rent. Also schools are a massive issue as children don't speek Spanish.
Any advice on where to start would be great. Thanx :)

Hi and a warm welcome to the Spanish forum on BE. Myself and Fred James are the moderators for the Spanish forums whilst BEVS moderates Europe. Moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. This is so that members gain the information that they are looking for and find their experiences on the forums to be friendly and worthwhile.

Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderator who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are usually friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge about the issues of living in Spain. I hope that you enjoy your time participating in the forums.

Please let me know if you need any further help.

Rosemary

Fredbargate Dec 30th 2015 10:52 pm

Re: Moving to Spain with 4 children!
 
A bit slow off the marks Rosemary?

Are you still suffering from the Christmas Spirits ;)


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