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Graham shaw Nov 19th 2016 11:55 pm

Moving and renting in Spain
 
Hi. I am moving to Cabo Roig area of Spain next June and will be renting a property. I will not be going for residency at first.
I have spoken with several estate agents and they rent for 11months only.
Does this mean if I take my belongings out there I have to move out for a month then move back.
I'm new to this so am unsure. I plan to rent for at least 2 to 3 years.
Any help would be great.
I will have loads more questions as I get near to moving
Graham

Rosemary Nov 20th 2016 1:16 am

Re: Moving and renting in Spain
 
Hi and a warm welcome to the Spanish forum on BE. Myself and Fred James are the moderators for the Spanish forums whilst BEVS moderates Europe. Moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. This is so that members gain the information that they are looking for and find their experiences on the forums to be friendly and worthwhile.

Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderator who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are usually friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge about the issues of living in Spain. I hope that you enjoy your time participating in the forums.

Please let me know if you need any further help.

Rosemary

snikpoh Nov 20th 2016 1:30 am

Re: Moving and renting in Spain
 

Originally Posted by Graham shaw (Post 12109664)
Hi. I am moving to Cabo Roig area of Spain next June and will be renting a property. I will not be going for residency at first.
I have spoken with several estate agents and they rent for 11months only.
Does this mean if I take my belongings out there I have to move out for a month then move back.
I'm new to this so am unsure. I plan to rent for at least 2 to 3 years.
Any help would be great.
I will have loads more questions as I get near to moving
Graham

Firstly, the agents are wrong for insisting on an 11 month contract - it makes no difference if it's 6 months, 12 months or whatever. Agents will waffle on about how 11 month contracts are the norm or are what's done - bet they are WRONG!!

If it's a legal contract, then you have the right to extend it for up to 3 years without the need for a new contract or anything.

You are obliged to sign on the list of foreigners (aka 'residnecia') within 90 days (this will also get your NIE). You will then need to get your padron.

As far as rental is concerned, the law is 1 months security deposit (fianza) and 1 months rent up front. Some agents/landlords will try and tell you different but be hard! It's not illegal to pay more fianza, just not necessary (and you may not get it back).

tebo53 Nov 20th 2016 1:59 am

Re: Moving and renting in Spain
 

Originally Posted by Graham shaw (Post 12109664)
Hi. I am moving to Cabo Roig area of Spain next June and will be renting a property. I will not be going for residency at first.
I have spoken with several estate agents and they rent for 11months only.
Does this mean if I take my belongings out there I have to move out for a month then move back.
I'm new to this so am unsure. I plan to rent for at least 2 to 3 years.
Any help would be great.
I will have loads more questions as I get near to moving
Graham

Hi Graham,

My "Long term" rental contract was 11 months to start with and then extended to another year, then longer term up to 3 years and more if everyone is in agreement.

No you don't have to move out for a month. As long as you keep paying what you have agreed on the contract you will be ok. Don't forget, landlords like to keep good payers as they are in the business of renting!

Our 2 bedroom apartment is €500 per month plus electric, nothing else.

We had to put 1 month deposit and 1 month advanced rent.

Steve

spainrico Nov 20th 2016 6:26 am

Re: Moving and renting in Spain
 
Planning to arrive in June can cause some problems because landlords may want to let through the main summer months on short term/high holiday rental rates and thus your choice will be reduced.

The other posters are correct all that 11 month stuff is total rubbish and now against the law. You need a rental contract to la Ley 4/2013 de 5 de junio. There are a lot of shall I say 'less than professional' agents in that area who either through ignorance or other motives operate outside of the law. (I used to live in that zone)

But having said that I do know people who are happily renting there but they have been around a while and so are experienced.

Graham shaw Nov 24th 2016 2:42 am

Re: Moving and renting in Spain
 
Thanks for your replies very useful.
Another quick question I was told I need a N I E beforeopening a bank account. I've looked on line and it states the N I E lasts 3 months then I need to apply for residency
I'm a little confused as I'm not looking for residency straight away but plan to open a bank account in January
Can you help
Graham

tebo53 Nov 24th 2016 3:00 am

Re: Moving and renting in Spain
 
No need for an NIE to open a non residents account, just your passport and some cash and Sabadell.

You have incorrect information about the NIE. I had mine 2 years before I came to live here, they last a lifetime. If you come to live here you have to sign the foreigners register (residencia) within that time.

snikpoh Nov 24th 2016 3:26 am

Re: Moving and renting in Spain
 

Originally Posted by tebo53 (Post 12113699)
No need for an NIE to open a non residents account, just your passport and some cash and Sabadell.

You have incorrect information about the NIE. I had mine 2 years before I came to live here, they last a lifetime. If you come to live here you have to sign the foreigners register (residencia) within that time.


The NIE itself lasts forever. Until earlier this year the certificate only lasted 3 months but that's been reversed and, like before, never needs renewing.

Some banks will insist on an NIE even for a non-resident account (even Sabadell) it just depends upon your particular branch. Like @tebo53, our Sabadell branch doesn't require an NIE

Rosemary Dec 1st 2016 8:19 am

Re: Moving and renting in Spain
 

Originally Posted by Relocation2madrid (Post 12119266)
Hi, in Madrid we go with our customers to Sabadell bank. They open it just with passport. Hope it helps!

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Rosemary

DelphineD Dec 10th 2016 5:19 am

Re: Moving and renting in Spain
 
Good evening everyone, we are seriously considering a move to Lanzarote (preferably Teguise area). We would rather rent to begin with, where is best to be looking for properties? TIA

Rosemary Dec 10th 2016 7:48 am

Re: Moving and renting in Spain
 
Hi and a warm welcome to the Spanish forum on BE. Myself and Fred James are the moderators for the Spanish forums whilst BEVS moderates Europe. Moderators are there to ensure that the site runs smoothly within the rules of BE. This is so that members gain the information that they are looking for and find their experiences on the forums to be friendly and worthwhile.

Problems and complaints should always be addressed to a moderator who will look into the matter and deal with it efficiently and fairly. Our members who post in the Spain Forums are usually friendly and helpful with a wealth of knowledge about the issues of living in Spain. I hope that you enjoy your time participating in the forums.

Please let me know if you need any further help.

Rosemary

Graham shaw Jan 2nd 2017 12:46 am

Re: Moving and renting in Spain
 

Originally Posted by snikpoh (Post 12113723)
The NIE itself lasts forever. Until earlier this year the certificate only lasted 3 months but that's been reversed and, like before, never needs renewing.

Some banks will insist on an NIE even for a non-resident account (even Sabadell) it just depends upon your particular branch. Like @tebo53, our Sabadell branch doesn't require an NIE

Hi thanks for your reply.
I am trying to sort out my NIE but can't download the firm. I also read that I need an address in Spain first.
I am coming out to Spain next week and was going to do the NIE before I come out there I also read that I need a letter to confirm why I need the NIE.
I am coming out there to live but not till June.
Can you helo

snikpoh Jan 2nd 2017 1:31 am

Re: Moving and renting in Spain
 

Originally Posted by Graham shaw (Post 12140879)
Hi thanks for your reply.
I am trying to sort out my NIE but can't download the firm. I also read that I need an address in Spain first.
I am coming out to Spain next week and was going to do the NIE before I come out there I also read that I need a letter to confirm why I need the NIE.
I am coming out there to live but not till June.
Can you helo

The form is here: http://extranjeros.empleo.gob.es/es/...ficados_EN.pdf

You do NOT need an address in Spain, a UK one will do fine.

Unless you specifically need an NIE now, why not wait and get it when you register as resident? Alternatively, apply for it when you're here.


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