Originally Posted by Albir_Tom

Mental health is at an all time high in the UK in the winter people go to work in the dark and come home in the dark, hardly get a summer at all anymore unless you live right down south.
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Originally Posted by Albir_Tom

The odd few may want to stay in the UK for the rest of their lives,

very rare you will find Jose Manuel García wanting to settle down and raise his family in the UK, buy an expensive house and put up with the British culture all of his life.

they are there simply for the good wages,

as for copping off with birds that is because they tell me Larry

Originally Posted by Moses2013

Sorry, you seem to be giving a wrong picture here and any capital city in the world has problems. Where do you start and where do you stop and it would be like saying that the whole of Spain is the Costa del Crime?
I have driven 1000 km's of the wild atlantic way and have not seen one prostitute. Not even a nuclear power plant and the neighbours kids around us are all into sports. I have driven 5 km's of the coast around Spain and have seen drunk people, drug addicts and prostitutes. Well, that would be the wrong image of a country going by that. I don't understand the point and the world is getting smaller and smaller anyway, so the youth of today can access anything they want. I'm sure British and Spanish kids play FIFA and might eat a burger, so they are not that different anymore.

Originally Posted by Albir_Tom

Adult man >> adult woman, both have indefinido contracts >> average salary 1400 per month each >> 2800 euros per month income >> two young children >> rent a 3 bedroom house on the Costa Blanca with communal swimming pool 600 euros per month or buy one for 90k euros >> right by the coast >> lovely climate all year round

Or the UK ?

I know where I would choose.

Please do not try and tell me there is no work and no indefinido contracts to be had with those salaries.

I never struggle for work.

Originally Posted by bob_bob

"they’re beheading other kids in coolock " How many? 1? 10? How often. Don't cherry pick an event to paint a whole section of society Tom, your way out of touch with the UK by the looks of it.

Originally Posted by Albir_Tom

And you are way out of touch with the streets by the looks of it and I am definitely not believe me.

If you really knew what went on, you would be in true shock.

Originally Posted by Albir_Tom

The UK is a cesspit, sorry I said it

anybody who thinks different is deluded, every single person I speak to back in England says it’s depressing and say to me I would be a fool to ever go back, it’s an absolute state there and it’s getting worse and worse.

They can’t even go out and have a civilised drink without fighting, the tories have completely ruined the country, the police are treated like absolute dirt, nobody respects the police, the kids take the absolute p**s out of them, you get a baton round the back of the legs in Spain or a slap round the face.

people are bound to try and defend it if they live there or are moving back there from abroad but it is what it is, it’s a sad state of affairs. People seem to be talking about it being more financially prosperous there, ok nice 80k a year job and a nice house and nice car, is that what makes people happy is it ?

going back to my original argument as to why the OP would be better off moving to the Costas, because you do not need loads of money to be happy, I would rather have less of an income, cheaper property, better weather, know my kids are safer over having a high salary, a nice house in Cheshire or Surrey, grim weather,

Because lets face it if they move to London, Birmingham, Bristol, Manchester, Liverpool, even Nottingham, Leicester, Stoke etc life is grim.

sorry to hit nerves like but it’s the truth

Certain things in life are way more important than money

Originally Posted by Albir_Tom

i have plenty of Spanish pals that studied in UK they went for fun more than anything to cop off with a load of English girls

Originally Posted by bob_bob

"they’re beheading other kids in coolock " How many? 1? 10? How often. Don't cherry pick an event to paint a whole section of society Tom, your way out of touch with the UK by the looks of it.
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Originally Posted by Pollyana

SO I've told my family I now want the real truth about the life they are living, how many times they have fallen prey to the drug dealers, or been beaten up walking to the local pub. They are clearly hiding these facts from me.
I'd also like my nieces to tell me how many Spanish boys they have copped off with lately, the reaction and answer to that should be hilarious!



I'm hoping Tom can provide a link to this as I am genuinely intrigued by it!

I have a dear friend who moved to Spain from London last year, loves it and would never go back. He's no fan of the UK but even he isn't this nastily anti everything. And if it truly was that bad he would be trying hard to talk me out of returning, but he realises I would not be happy in Spain, its not for me. He loved living in Australia, I loathe it - we lived in different cities here and had different experiences which coloured our views of the country. The point being that we all want different things in life, and no country is perfect nor does every country fit everyone. There are good and bad bits everywhere, and I think the OP really has the right approach saying its not just the finances, she is taking everything into account.

Now off to search google for the outbreak of beheadings in Coolock.........