Re: mot a car
Originally Posted by the sun is shining
Hi Guys,
I have a Mitsubishi l200 on a 03 plate and i will be bringing it to Spain? the Windows are blacked out the back ones really blacked out and the two front are the the darkest you can have for the front in the uk? also i have three TVs two in the back head rest and one at the front that flips up with the stereo? will this be a problem? also to register this over in Spain what will i have to do? i am going to put a full years mot and 12 months tax before i come over and try and drive it for as long as i can before i have to change it over does any one know the cost involved all help will be appreciated? Thanks All Emma The BIG problem you have is from what I understand (it's been quite well documented on these forums) the Spanish will NOT allow registration on any RHD commerical vehicle. :scared: We've never sold or been involved with a RHD commerical vehicle export to Spain so I can not tell you either way, but please seek a legal answer before commiting to anything. On your other questions: The tints may be a problem in the front windows, but there is plenty of info on this thread if you need to have them removed.. Some countries totally frown on tvs in headrests as they can be unsafe, infact there has been talk of banning them EU wide, not sure if the law has been passed yet? Problem is if you have an accident and your head is thrown back into the headrest at a high speed then you could find yourself with the back of your head being able to play ITV! :eek: As with the tints, it's a case of leave them in until asked to get the removed. Registration might be complicated; We for one import a large amount of L200 and Vigos (Hilux) trucks from Asia to the UK (There are companies that import hundreds of these a week, so you can image the chances of you having one is somewhat high) and as they do not have EU type approval have to be registered via the ESVA route in the UK (also discussed here) it's a strong possibility unless you purchased it direct from a dealer that your vehicle could be a grey import. This is not a problem if you have owned the vehicle for six or more months tho as it's bought in via the personal import scheme which bypasses such things (currently) As far as modifications, you will need a set of LHD headlights, the rear fog light needs to be on the other side and your speedo needs to also have KMH on the face (ie how fast you're going, it should have this but if it's a grey import it may not) If you've owned it for six months or more registration is pretty easy, it costs €250-300 if you do it yourself €500 If you pay someone to do it for you. This is not including the parts or labor for modification. |
Re: mot a car
Originally Posted by zel
The tints may be a problem in the front windows, but there is plenty of info on this thread if you need to have them removed..
Some countries totally frown on tvs in headrests as they can be unsafe, infact there has been talk of banning them EU wide, not sure if the law has been passed yet? Problem is if you have an accident and your head is thrown back into the headrest at a high speed then you could find yourself with the back of your head being able to play ITV! :eek: As with the tints, it's a case of leave them in until asked to get the removed. Registration might be complicated; We for one import a large amount of L200 and Vigos (Hilux) trucks from Asia to the UK (There are companies that import hundreds of these a week, so you can image the chances of you having one is somewhat high) and as they do not have EU type approval have to be registered via the ESVA route in the UK (also discussed here) it's a strong possibility unless you purchased it direct from a dealer that your vehicle could be a grey import. This is not a problem if you have owned the vehicle for six or more months tho as it's bought in via the personal import scheme which bypasses such things (currently) As far as modifications, you will need a set of LHD headlights, the rear fog light needs to be on the other side and your speedo needs to also have KMH on the face (ie how fast you're going, it should have this but if it's a grey import it may not) If you've owned it for six months or more registration is pretty easy, it costs €250-300 if you do it yourself €500 If you pay someone to do it for you. This is not including the parts or labor for modification. Thank you for your help? i have only purchased the l200 from a friend and it is an import now what ever that means? I love the car and really hope it would go through ok. what happens if i have not owned this for six months as we are planning to leave in deceDecember spaiSpain there anyway round that? Thanks |
Re: mot a car
Originally Posted by the sun is shining
Hi,
Thank you for your help? i have only purchased the l200 from a friend and it is an import now what ever that means? I love the car and really hope it would go through ok. what happens if i have not owned this for six months as we are planning to leave in deceDecember spaiSpain there anyway round that? Thanks Well as mentioned above your main problem is not that it's a grey import or that it's not been owned for six months, it's if the Spanish authorities will allow it registration in the first place. If I had to take an educated guess I would guess they wouldn't. The fact that it's a grey import means it has no eu type approval (basicly it does not have a documented that says the EU deems this to conform to its standards) This obviously does not come with your vehicle and as a result would need the Spanish version of the UK ESVA test, unless you had owned it for more than six months before submitting the paperwork to achieve Spanish registration, as then you would be using a different avenue of registration. But to answer your question, if you have not owned it for longer than six months from the date your submit registration you are liable for import tax. |
Re: mot a car
Shouldn't be a problem as the vehicle's on an 03 plate so I doubt very much if it's a grey import, and the reason why the Spanish won't re-register commercial vehicles is that they are mostly vans and you have to have 360 degree visibility which of course a van doesn't but an L200 will have (unless of course a rear cab is fitted, which of course could be removed for registration purposes!!).
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Re: mot a car
Originally Posted by malagaman
Shouldn't be a problem as the vehicle's on an 03 plate so I doubt very much if it's a grey import, and the reason why the Spanish won't re-register commercial vehicles is that they are mostly vans and you have to have 360 degree visibility which of course a van doesn't but an L200 will have (unless of course a rear cab is fitted, which of course could be removed for registration purposes!!).
And also I'm not entirely convinced (tho it makes sense) that the 360 visibility is correct as on another Spanish forum someone had problems importing their Transit 'people carrier' van which has windows all around it, including the rear!?!? Personaly I would want it in writing from the Spanish authorities in advance or know of someone who has imported a RHD L200 or Hilux or any other of these types of commerical vehicle before I make the move, you'd be crazy not too as it's going to be a very expensive mistake to make by just 'winging' it. |
Re: mot a car
Originally Posted by zel
Why would you assume it's not an import on an 03 plate? we've been importing these from Thailand since before 2003 and the original person has already said it is an import as I assumed it may be.
And also I'm not entirely convinced (tho it makes sense) that the 360 visibility is correct as on another Spanish forum someone had problems importing their Transit 'people carrier' van which has windows all around it, including the rear!?!? Personaly I would want it in writing from the Spanish authorities or know of someone who has imported a RHD L200 before I make the move, you'd be crazy not too. I think i might have got it wrong as we have owned it for 1 month friend had it for over a year and he bought it from an auction so i dont know if this is any help, so i assume it has all relevant paper work it's passed on the import jargon. Could we not just drive it back to the uk for mots etc. Emma |
Re: mot a car
Originally Posted by the sun is shining
HI,
I think i might have got it wrong as we have owned it for 1 month friend had it for over a year and he bought it from an auction so i dont know if this is any help, so i assume it has all relevant paper work it's passed on the import jargon. Could we not just drive it back to the uk for mots etc. Emma The only other no-complicated way of finding out is call up a local Mitsu dealer with your vehicles VIN (chassis) number and ask if it's an official UK or EU supplied vehicle or if it's a grey import. Wether is has passed the UK tests or not, bares no relevance once you've submitted the paperwork to reg it in Spain unless you have owned it for six months or more. If you do it before such a date, you will have to reg it from scratch (so to speak) and would need the Spanish version of an ESVA if available, i've yet to find out if there is such a thing and i've asked many times. But please please please, forget all that and find out if an RHD L200 can be regged in Spain in the first place, contact traffico or a spanish lawyer etc to get a concrete response to if it's possible. Do NOT (no offence) take peoples words for it on forums unless you're talking to someone who has done it directly. As this could be an extremely expensive mistake in the making. |
Re: mot a car
Originally Posted by malagaman
Shouldn't be a problem as the vehicle's on an 03 plate so I doubt very much if it's a grey import, and the reason why the Spanish won't re-register commercial vehicles is that they are mostly vans and you have to have 360 degree visibility which of course a van doesn't but an L200 will have (unless of course a rear cab is fitted, which of course could be removed for registration purposes!!).
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Re: mot a car
Originally Posted by jdr
Also the sliding door on most vans is on the wrong side opening to the traffic not the path. ;)
Spain is a minefield of stuff that doesn't make any sense :o |
Re: mot a car
Originally Posted by the sun is shining
HI,
I think i might have got it wrong as we have owned it for 1 month friend had it for over a year and he bought it from an auction so i dont know if this is any help, so i assume it has all relevant paper work it's passed on the import jargon. Could we not just drive it back to the uk for mots etc. Emma |
Re: mot a car
Originally Posted by zel
Where you bought it means nothing unless in your paperwork there is the suppling dealers name/address and it's an official Mitsu uk dealer, you can normaly also check by the first stamp in the service book for the supplying dealer.
The only other no-complicated way of finding out is call up a local Mitsu dealer with your vehicles VIN (chassis) number and ask if it's an official UK or EU supplied vehicle or if it's a grey import. Wether is has passed the UK tests or not, bares no relevance once you've submitted the paperwork to reg it in Spain unless you have owned it for six months or more. If you do it before such a date, you will have to reg it from scratch (so to speak) and would need the Spanish version of an ESVA if available, i've yet to find out if there is such a thing and i've asked many times. But please please please, forget all that and find out if an RHD L200 can be regged in Spain in the first place, contact traffico or a spanish lawyer etc to get a concrete response to if it's possible. Do NOT (no offence) take peoples words for it on forums unless you're talking to someone who has done it directly. As this could be an extremely expensive mistake in the making. Thanks for the advice i will find out tomorrow as i really do not want to let my car go as i love it and feel safe in it? (had quite a few accidents in smaller cars) so that is why i bought it. Thanks Emma |
Re: mot a car
Originally Posted by jdr
Also the sliding door on most vans is on the wrong side opening to the traffic not the path. ;)
It has four doors plus the tailgate :) |
Re: mot a car
Originally Posted by the sun is shining
Hi,
Thanks for the advice i will find out tomorrow as i really do not want to let my car go as i love it and feel safe in it? (had quite a few accidents in smaller cars) so that is why i bought it. Thanks Emma I understand, it's a false security but I understand :) We have several Toyota Hilux (The Toyota versions of your truck) and they're great for what they are, we use ours to trailer cars and boats around and love them! Just a quick bit of advice, a lot of the Asian imports are supplied with leather seats (done in the original country before exporting to the UK as leather was not an official Mitsu option) So if yours has leather odds are it's a grey import. |
Re: mot a car
Originally Posted by zel
Hi Emma,
I understand, it's a false security but I understand :) We have several Toyota Hilux (The Toyota versions of your truck) and they're great for what they are, we use ours to trailer cars and boats around and love them! Just a quick bit of advice, a lot of the Asian imports are supplied with leather seats (done in the original country as leather was not an official Mitsu option) So if yours has leather odds are it's a grey import. Our's is cloth, the mileage is in km? Thanks |
Re: mot a car
Originally Posted by the sun is shining
Hi,
Our's is cloth, the mileage is in km? Thanks It could still be an EU import tho (which is good news) but like i've said the original supplying country makes no difference if you've owned it for six months, so you could go over tomorrow and keep it on uk plates for 5 months (as you've owned it for a month) and then reg it without having to worry about supplying country and import tax. As mentioned your main problem is if it's classed as a commerical vehicle in Spain and if they will grant registration period, nothing to do with supplying countries. Please obtain a definatitive legal response in writing before taking it over as it will be false ecomony if it's denied registration. |
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