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Rotor Dec 21st 2012 10:37 pm

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 

Originally Posted by Lionda (Post 10446546)
Wendy has told me the 'Inside Out' programme which she was featured in will be shown on 7th January on BBC Yorkshire/Lincs region. I don't live in the area so will have to watch on BBC iPlayer. It will just be a 10 min slot in the 30 minute programme but will outline the difficulties of searching the area and the problems faced by not having a death certificate to access finances. Wendy, and others in similar situations, have to wait 7 years if a body is not found. She can't access Gordons pension or savings he set aside for her. Hopefully the Government will look into reducing the 7 year time scale :fingerscrossed:

I suppose one of the lessons we can all learn from this is to prepare for the worse , make sure your partner has pins , passwords and safe combinations so at least they can access funds should you pop off.

missile Dec 22nd 2012 12:54 am

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 
Good point Rotor. Even when you die in less tragic circumstance, it can take time for your loved ones to gain access to your finances.

Domino Dec 22nd 2012 6:54 am

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yes a good point Rotor - but depends on how much you trust ;)

I remember when the Royal Navy stopped the tot a sum of several £millions was put into an interest bearing account and an "insurance policy" was entered into for those who paid a very very small amount each week/month subscribing into the fund.
If the individual should die, in or out of service, then a "guaranteed" sum (I think it was originally £450) was paid to the registered Next of Kin within 48 hours of the death being reported. Now considering this was started 40 years ago by people who understood the problem with frozen accounts, the need for cash etc to pay the current bills and just to live until such time as any insurance policies paid out, this was an exceedingly good deal.
Regrettably no general life insurance company ever copied it, meaning that those left behind have to borrow from friends and relatives until such time as they start to get money coming in.

A Navy Recruitment officer was instructed to visit a grieving widow and tell her that her husband had been paid in advance and he owed the Navy for so many days (8 days I think it was). He refused outright, contacted an Admiral and the sum was written off.

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angiescarr Dec 22nd 2012 5:34 pm

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 

Originally Posted by Domino (Post 10446926)
yes a good point Rotor - but depends on how much you trust ;)

I remember when the Royal Navy stopped the tot a sum of several £millions was put into an interest bearing account and an "insurance policy" was entered into for those who paid a very very small amount each week/month subscribing into the fund.
If the individual should die, in or out of service, then a "guaranteed" sum (I think it was originally £450) was paid to the registered Next of Kin within 48 hours of the death being reported. Now considering this was started 40 years ago by people who understood the problem with frozen accounts, the need for cash etc to pay the current bills and just to live until such time as any insurance policies paid out, this was an exceedingly good deal.
Regrettably no general life insurance company ever copied it, meaning that those left behind have to borrow from friends and relatives until such time as they start to get money coming in.

A Navy Recruitment officer was instructed to visit a grieving widow and tell her that her husband had been paid in advance and he owed the Navy for so many days (8 days I think it was). He refused outright, contacted an Admiral and the sum was written off.

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An ex worked for a debt recovery company. His specialist area was recovering debt from widows/widowers. He hated it. He once had to call an ex client of mine who's husband worked in a charitable social care environment and ended his days deeply in debt. He told the lady not to accept the debt which she didn't have to do by law, but if she had...she would have ended up paying it all. And the same day he quit his job!
Anyway. It's worth remembering that if your partner has debts when he/she passes away. They aren't necessarily yours to pay BUT if you accept the debt..even in a phone call, it's as if you have made a new contract. Don't do it! These companies are trained to get you to do this and most people who are grieving will just 'roll over' esp if the 'kind' company gives them some time to pay. Watch out for that.

Hino Dec 22nd 2012 6:17 pm

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 
Sorry to hear about the probable loss but why a seven year wait to issue a death certificate and dissolve the estate ?

I have lost two good friends at sea and I know for a fact that their wives and families didn't have to wait anything like seven years for a death certificate to be issued or the deceased estate to be settled.

Are there any suspicious circumstances ?

Fred James Dec 22nd 2012 6:57 pm

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If someone is lost at sea then it would usually be assumed that they were dead. The relatives of the people who died on the Titanic certainly didn't have to wait seven years. The same applies to aircraft lost at sea.

If someone sailed off single handed and the boat and person were never seen again then there would be a 7 year wait.

It obviously depends on the circumstances. In the case of this missing man there is no indication whatsoever what happened. It is perfectly possible, albeit unlikely, that he could still be alive somewhere else.

spainrico Dec 22nd 2012 9:10 pm

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 
Yes I agree with the last post - especially as another British walker is currently missing. It is always best to hike with a group some of which (at least) should have good equipment and knowledge of the area.

Lionda Jan 6th 2013 12:46 am

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 

Originally Posted by Hino (Post 10447537)
Sorry to hear about the probable loss but why a seven year wait to issue a death certificate and dissolve the estate ?

I have lost two good friends at sea and I know for a fact that their wives and families didn't have to wait anything like seven years for a death certificate to be issued or the deceased estate to be settled.

Are there any suspicious circumstances ?

No suspicious circumstances, he just went out walking as per usual fully equipped and just never came back Wendy and Gordon holidayed in the area regularly and he went on his walks alone taking photos and making notes. There will be another search and the locals have promised Wendy they will keep looking. The Inside Out programme will be on tomorrow night with the 10 min slot with Wendy in Nerja.

Rotor Jan 6th 2013 3:42 am

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 

Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 10447696)
Yes I agree with the last post - especially as another British walker is currently missing. It is always best to hike with a group some of which (at least) should have good equipment and knowledge of the area.


Link?

missile Jan 6th 2013 3:03 pm

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 

Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 10447696)
Yes I agree with the last post - especially as another British walker is currently missing. It is always best to hike with a group some of which (at least) should have good equipment and knowledge of the area.

I think you refer to the man lost on Skye? He was with a group but became separated RIP > http://www.walkhighlands.co.uk/news/...uachan/007557/

Jontee Jan 6th 2013 8:08 pm

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Note that this is a Regional programme due to be shown tonight on BBC1 Yorkshire. This channel is available on most SKY and Freeview at the end of the channel listings, channel 9??

Lionda Jan 6th 2013 11:03 pm

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 

Originally Posted by Jontee (Post 10468462)
Note that this is a Regional programme due to be shown tonight on BBC1 Yorkshire. This channel is available on most SKY and Freeview at the end of the channel listings, channel 9??

I am hoping I will be able to find it on iPlayer.

Lionda Jan 7th 2013 6:37 am

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Found it on iPlayer

http://www.bbc.co.uk/i/b01psbbc/

spainrico Jan 7th 2013 6:46 am

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 
Looks like the man I referred to might have been spotted

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-20846780

Hino Jan 7th 2013 12:09 pm

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 
Probably Measles,

That would have slowed him down a bit :)


Originally Posted by spainrico (Post 10469637)
Looks like the man I referred to might have been spotted

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-20846780


Rotor Jan 8th 2013 12:48 am

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 

Originally Posted by Hino (Post 10470264)
Probably Measles,

That would have slowed him down a bit :)

You are trivializing a sad and serious post , go and crayon somewhere else.

Rosemary Jan 8th 2013 1:21 am

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 

Originally Posted by Hino (Post 10470264)
Probably Measles,

That would have slowed him down a bit :)

Please do not be so thoughtless. Think of the feelings of the family before you post this sort of drivel.

Rosemary

Hino Jan 8th 2013 7:14 am

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Yes Sir ! Right away Sir ! F.W. :rofl:




Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 10471284)
You are trivializing a sad and serious post , go and crayon somewhere else.


Rotor Jan 8th 2013 10:36 am

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 

Originally Posted by Hino (Post 10472039)
Yes Sir ! Right away Sir ! F.W. :rofl:

Have you recently suffered a serious head injury?

Hino Jan 8th 2013 1:28 pm

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 
No I'm in the best of good health thanks :)

Have you recently stopped taking you control freak medication ? ;)

You seem to think that you have some sort of authority to judge the content of other members posts and if you feel that it does not correspond to your standards, you also feel that you have the authority to instruct these fellow members as to what they can and can not post.

Who elected you to be the arbiter of good taste in this matter and who exactly gave you the authority to advise me where I could or could not scribble with my 'crayon' ?

With your enquiries about my health, your delusions of grandeur appear to have reached the dizzy heights of believing yourself to be medically qualified. Either that or it was just another attempt to inflame the situation and add more fuel to the fire you started.

If you feel you have anything further to add to this 'conversation' I'd be obliged if you would take it to P.M.s

In the meantime, here's a therapeutic video for you :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyCVWVHGCzs



Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 10472383)
Have you recently suffered a serious head injury?


Rotor Jan 8th 2013 8:55 pm

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 

Originally Posted by Hino (Post 10472523)
No I'm in the best of good health thanks :)

Have you recently stopped taking you control freak medication ? ;)

You seem to think that you have some sort of authority to judge the content of other members posts and if you feel that it does not correspond to your standards, you also feel that you have the authority to instruct these fellow members as to what they can and can not post.

Who elected you to be the arbiter of good taste in this matter and who exactly gave you the authority to advise me where I could or could not scribble with my 'crayon' ?

With your enquiries about my health, your delusions of grandeur appear to have reached the dizzy heights of believing yourself to be medically qualified. Either that or it was just another attempt to inflame the situation and add more fuel to the fire you started.

If you feel you have anything further to add to this 'conversation' I'd be obliged if you would take it to P.M.s

In the meantime, here's a therapeutic video for you :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyCVWVHGCzs

Its all about common decency,end of.

Lionda Jan 14th 2013 6:13 pm

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 
Well, I was able to watch the show on BBC iPlayer and it was nice to be able to see Wendy and also the place where Gordon disappeared, but so sad :( Wendy is hurting so much and this 7 year thing isn't helping her at all. It was nice to see Michiel, the guide who is leading the searches, he said he will "never give up" :) He has been a good friend to Wendy and Gordon and she is comforted by his words.

Porth Jan 15th 2013 2:54 am

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 
I am very new to this forum and as such access the forum for assistance.

Where I come from we look after our own and here I simply say that one of our 'friends' is suffering and hugely at that. None of us would be able to comprehend the hurt.

We should support the lady absolutely simple no arguments.

Respect respect respect.

Rotor Jan 16th 2013 9:43 pm

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 

Originally Posted by Lionda (Post 10483488)
Well, I was able to watch the show on BBC iPlayer and it was nice to be able to see Wendy and also the place where Gordon disappeared, but so sad :( Wendy is hurting so much and this 7 year thing isn't helping her at all. It was nice to see Michiel, the guide who is leading the searches, he said he will "never give up" :) He has been a good friend to Wendy and Gordon and she is comforted by his words.

I know Michiel , barking mad but a nice bloke , he does 4x4 tours in Nerja ,

http://www.lifeadventure.eu

Lionda Jan 17th 2013 10:40 pm

Re: Man missing in Nerja
 

Originally Posted by Rotor (Post 10488365)
I know Michiel , barking mad but a nice bloke , he does 4x4 tours in Nerja ,

http://www.lifeadventure.eu

He's certainly given Wendy hope that the search will continue as and whenever possible. That has helped her a lot.


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