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Old Dec 15th 2020, 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Chipmonk
Exactly what is it that people think is going to happen with the vaccine? Do you think it will give you cancer? Make you dyslexic? There are no doubt numerous things out there that contribute to ill health out there that we dont obsess about. The negative side of the vaccine will be its effectiveness. Sure some people might have reactions to it but people have reactions to many things but that doesn't make poisonous or labelled dangerous. I say if you choose not to get vaccinated then if you fall ill you should not have the right to public health care. That's seems fair. People at the front line risk being infected because they choose to help others. If you feel that you dont trust the science then its selfish to ask for people who do believe in the science to put themselves at risk helping you.
Now that's a silly statement as according to you the vaccine will be protective of those who have it and I assume that the "people at the front line" will be offered it first. I will wait for a while before I get mine and don't need advice about medication from you thanks!

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Old Dec 17th 2020, 8:46 pm
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Originally Posted by tebo53
Now that's a silly statement as according to you the vaccine will be protective of those who have it and I assume that the "people at the front line" will be offered it first. I will wait for a while before I get mine and don't need advice about medication from you thanks!

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The vaccine is not 100% effective though - also there are those who may be unable to take it for various reasons. These people will be put at risk by those simply choosing not to take it.
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Old Dec 18th 2020, 10:20 pm
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Sadly we live in an age where people listen to their mate down the pub or some idiot on twitter rather than look at the facts. This vaccine has been developed because of the money and sheer numbers of researchers let loose plus over 40k trials in Europe, 1 million in China. Corners have not been cut thats the reality but some folk won't accept it.

My wife and daughter are nurses and both had their first jab last week and welcomed it. Perhaps if some folk worked a twelve/fourteen hour shift with them their understanding of what the serious nature of covid really is and take the vaccine. Perhaps they'll change their mind when they are not allowed to fly or enter/leave a country which are logical steps to take IMO.

A tiny percentage of people won't be able to take it and I do feel sorry for them and the possible restrictions they may face for some years to come.
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https://www.eldiario.es/sociedad/san...1_6521846.html

Here is something that might be of interest. Although the vaccine is not obligatory in Spain they are considering recording rejections.They suggest nothing sinister but it's not a great leap of imagination to see what it might mean.

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Old Dec 22nd 2020, 7:23 am
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I see though that there will be anonymity regarding names .
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Old Dec 22nd 2020, 8:20 am
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Originally Posted by jimenato
The vaccine is not 100% effective though - also there are those who may be unable to take it for various reasons. These people will be put at risk by those simply choosing not to take it.
Why?
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Old Dec 22nd 2020, 8:31 am
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Why?

Presumably because the less people who are vaccinated the greater the ability for the virus to still be active in the community therefore a greater risk to those unable to use vaccine. The more people who are immune the harder for the virus to spread
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Old Dec 22nd 2020, 8:34 am
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The so called herd immunity. I have read various figures but 60% seems popular
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Originally Posted by thegolfer
Why?
The longer the virus is still around the great the opportunity for it to mutate to a point where the vaccine won't work and we're back to square one but with the chance the new version will have a higher mortality rate.
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Originally Posted by bob_bob
The longer the virus is still around the great the opportunity for it to mutate to a point where the vaccine won't work and we're back to square one but with the chance the new version will have a higher mortality rate.
But the vaccine doesn't stop you spreading the virus does it? Virus's mutate......thats what they do...many thousands of mutations are already out there.
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Originally Posted by thegolfer
Why?
In addition to the other answers given, those who have chosen not to be vaccinated and subsequently get ill and hospitalised will put healthcare workers at risk if the vaccination hasn't worked for those workers.

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Old Dec 23rd 2020, 9:05 am
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Originally Posted by jimenato
In addition to the other answers given, those who have chosen not to be vaccinated and subsequently get ill and hospitalised will put healthcare workers at risk if the vaccination hasn't worked for those workers.
That's not an argument really though is it as those healthcare workers would be at risk in all situations.

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Old Dec 23rd 2020, 10:11 am
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My understanding is that the vaccine, at least the one currently used in the UK, does not prevent someone catching the virus or passing it on. It only stops the recipient becoming ill.
If this is true then those colleagues who have had the vaccination will also present a risk to their colleagues.
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My understanding is that the vaccine, at least the one currently used in the UK, does not prevent someone catching the virus or passing it on. It only stops the recipient becoming ill.
If this is true then those colleagues who have had the vaccination will also present a risk to their colleagues.
Your understanding is flawed.
The vaccine works in the same way as flu vaccine. It prepares the recipients immune system to recognise and kill the virus if and when the recipient is infected.
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