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gettingthere May 4th 2007 10:01 am

mains electricity
 
does anyone know a website or have any info they can share about getting connected to mains electricity? we will need it as a back up to solar power

thanks

Hillybilly May 4th 2007 11:05 am

Re: mains electricity
 
:confused:
Solar power is usually the option only if you can't get mains electricity in the first place and the the usual back up for solar power is wind, generator etc...not the other way round.
However...the Endesa site is http://www.endesa.es/Portal/es/default.htm
Where are you in Spain?

Hillybilly May 4th 2007 11:07 am

Re: mains electricity
 
...though you could always sell your surplus power back to the grid if mains connection is a possibility.

gettingthere May 4th 2007 11:08 am

Re: mains electricity
 
we are moving to a rural area near valencia, power is vital to us as we will be keeping birds of prey so need lots of freezers , incubators etc. wind is no good as birds can be cruelly crushed! we prefer to use sustainable energy though but mains would be a back up, Gennys just too noisy and damn expensive!

thanks for the link

BriscasBetterHalf May 4th 2007 11:54 pm

Re: mains electricity
 

Originally Posted by gettingthere (Post 4739478)
we are moving to a rural area near valencia, power is vital to us as we will be keeping birds of prey so need lots of freezers , incubators etc. wind is no good as birds can be cruelly crushed! we prefer to use sustainable energy though but mains would be a back up, Gennys just too noisy and damn expensive!

thanks for the link

Just a few thoughts that might help...............

I think you will find that electricity is "damn expensive" to bring over any sort of distance to a rural property! Can you see an electricity pole from your house? If not then it’s going to be quite a few thousand euros. Maybe €10k or €20k. A lot of €€€ for a backup system.
If it’s only as a back up then it’s only going to be on for short periods on cloudy days!
You can get "silent generators" that people have in the house. Although they are not silent they are pretty quiet I'm led to believe!
Or site the generator away from the house.
If you used the generator all day every day it would take you a very long time to run up €10k in fuel bills.

spain May 4th 2007 11:59 pm

Re: mains electricity
 

Originally Posted by BriscasBetterHalf (Post 4740986)
Just a few thoughts that might help...............

I think you will find that electricity is "damn expensive" to bring over any sort of distance to a rural property! Can you see an electricity pole from your house? If not then it’s going to be quite a few thousand euros. Maybe €10k or €20k. A lot of €€€ for a backup system.
If it’s only as a back up then it’s only going to be on for short periods on cloudy days!
You can get "silent generators" that people have in the house. Although they are not silent they are pretty quiet I'm led to believe!
Or site the generator away from the house.
If you used the generator all day every day it would take you a very long time to run up €10k in fuel bills.

yes it is expensive - a property I looked at was going to be 6,000-10,000€ and the main pylon was within spitting distance :thumbdown:

gettingthere May 5th 2007 1:17 am

Re: mains electricity
 
thanks for the tips so far! getting more confused by the minute!! we are back again at the end of May so need to get some more info I think when over, with the business being tied to the house though it might ne a cost we have to swallow as to hae no power is our worst nightmare(well almost!!!)

thanks
again

Ka Ora! May 5th 2007 6:07 am

Re: mains electricity
 
generators are all noisy but this can be sorted out by putting it in the correct site every BT telephone exchange in the uk has a genny there has never been one noise complaint ever. these generators are used everyday at peak cost periods and surplus sold back to the grid a nick name came from mad max and we would call it a power embargo it became the offical name. but gennys are good a petrol one can be converted to gas natral methane ie gnv or propane and a diesel can be converted to sunflower oil so a cleaner route is available to you it is always best you double your Kw,s reqired so avrage home needs 3 to 6 Kw get an 10 kw genny it can be used in conjunction
with inverters and solar to make the most of all power

Solarwhizz May 5th 2007 6:57 am

Re: mains electricity
 

Originally Posted by Hillybilly (Post 4739470)
...though you could always sell your surplus power back to the grid if mains connection is a possibility.

Not in Spain!!, (reversing meters are not acceptable at this time.The only way you would be allowed to do it would be to set up a Solar farm as a seperate business e ntity solely supplying the grid.

In terms of Generators, the Silent type are technically silent, IE it is measurement of dB at a specified distance, there are ultrasilent water cooled types which are very quiet, very expensive and still relatively noisy. As somebody above said, Solar energy is usually an alternative to not having or the cost of getting mains is prohibitive. However with Spains 320 days per year average sunshine, (Ok not last month I know), a properly sized Solar installation could meet all your needs, and perhaps have the genny as an infrequent emergency. As always its about size!! In this case of both the system and your pocket!!

For example if your mains electric is gonna cost you say 30K euro's for that kind of money you could get a pretty powerfull solar system with traker that would produce, Say 15 to 17kw per day.
But it also sounds as if you want a lot of power!!! soooooooooo:unsure:


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