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Old Apr 21st 2017, 10:06 am
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Originally Posted by missile
You must pay road tax (or rather VED as it is now called) and your insurance. If not expect a fine from DVLA waiting for you on your return. If you have a passenger(?) you need to carry two vests, triangles and spare bulbs. AA and RAC have excellent guides on what is required and recommended for motorists travelling abroad.
I think you need to carry a yellow vest for each and every passenger so if you have kids with you they need to be able to be vested up too.
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According to the AA the requirement for spare bulbs in France is a recommendation and is not compulsory. It is impossible to change bulbs in some headlights, such as LED headlights.

In Spain, although two triangles are mandatory, that applies to Spanish cars, others can carry one, but again, it is recommended that you carry two.
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According to the AA the requirement for spare bulbs in France is a recommendation and is not compulsory. It is impossible to change bulbs in some headlights, such as LED headlights.

In Spain, although two triangles are mandatory, that applies to Spanish cars, others can carry one, but again, it is recommended that you carry two.
For the price of a spare bulb & fuse pack, why take the risk?
It is not compulsory to carry a jack, spare wheel or puncture repair kit either
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It is compulsory in Spain, either to have a spare wheel or a means of repairing the tyre - usually one of these sealing kits.

I carry a set of normal bulbs, but not headlight bulbs as they are LED and the only option with a failure is a workshop and lots of money!
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Originally Posted by Fred James
It is compulsory in Spain, either to have a spare wheel or a means of repairing the tyre - usually one of these sealing kits.
I carry a set of normal bulbs, but not headlight bulbs as they are LED and the only option with a failure is a workshop and lots of money!
Not compulsory for tourists according to AA and RAC
OP should consider what items are sensible to carry not merely those which are compulsory and I am pleased to note you have now acknowledged that it is sensible to carry a spare set of bulbs.

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There are many "sensible" options, but they are not necessarily mandatory.
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Originally Posted by Fred James
There are many "sensible" options, but they are not necessarily mandatory.
That depends on whose website you trust. AA, RAC and Gov.org quote differing compulsory requirements.

Originally Posted by Fred James
According to the AA the requirement for spare bulbs in France is a recommendation and is not compulsory. ....
Good luck quoting that to the Gendarme
The AA have a caveat to their advice
1) The list above is not an exhaustive list of compulsory items. Compulsory or required items could vary or change and fines may be imposed for failure to carry compulsory items. Please do check the latest motoring laws in the countries you are visiting before you visit.
I note the AA European Travel Kit contains
Universal Bulb Kit (compact). Contains All 3 halogens 1 X H1, 1 x H4 (472), H7 (499). Includes selection of bulbs and fuses
It would appear AA are not so sure of their own advice?

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To be fair to the motoring organisations, it must be difficult to keep up with changes (often not publicised) over 40 countries. It's difficult enough if you live there!

The only safe solution is to carry everything, including a yellow vest for the dog!
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Originally Posted by lgm1963
you can renew your mot a calendar month before it expires, you don't have to wait for expiry. You do not lose your expiry so effectively you get 13 months MOT.

And if your car is still registered in the UK, yes you will still have to pay vehicle excise duty on it.
The Road Tax can be renewed by the Gov.org site.
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Originally Posted by BobFord
The Road Tax can be renewed by the Gov.org site.
Provided you have a valid and current MOT and insurance - they won't accept foreign insurance.
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Originally Posted by snikpoh
Provided you have a valid and current MOT and insurance - they won't accept foreign insurance.
No definitely need an English insurer with extended European cover.
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Surely you don't need UK road tax once abroad. Can't you just SORN it once outside the UK and retax it from abroad just before you return?
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Originally Posted by winston_1
Surely you don't need UK road tax once abroad. Can't you just SORN it once outside the UK and retax it from abroad just before you return?
If you are in country as a visitor, then under european law your vehicle must meet the legal requirements of the country of registration.That's why you have to return to UK each year to get new MOT - assuming you can get long term visitor insurance. If you SORN your vehicle you cannot drive it on public roads other than to a pre-arranged appointment at an MOT centre. Your UK insurance would also be invalid as you have to advise your insurance company that the vehicle has been SORN'd.
If you become resident, then your vehicle usually has to meet the requirements of your residence country so can mean changing headlights/ Speedometer etc.
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Is it possible to stay in Spain without becoming a resident but live there full time?
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Originally Posted by quiltman
If you are in country as a visitor, then under european law your vehicle must meet the legal requirements of the country of registration.That's why you have to return to UK each year to get new MOT - assuming you can get long term visitor insurance. If you SORN your vehicle you cannot drive it on public roads other than to a pre-arranged appointment at an MOT centre. Your UK insurance would also be invalid as you have to advise your insurance company that the vehicle has been SORN'd.
If you become resident, then your vehicle usually has to meet the requirements of your residence country so can mean changing headlights/ Speedometer etc.
Most speedo's have both MPH & Kph
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