LRAU / LOV - Land grab 2011
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Possibly an oldie, discussed before , but still very much with us - that should not be forgotten , in sympathy for the poor souls who are suffering.
Questions like,how can we go to war against tyrants & oppressors, yet, our neighbours suffer within the very democratic society we would advocate for others?
Our legal system grinds away like the mill wheels of God, & even when decisions are pronounced by the highest courts, the rulings are appealed, often set aside by lesser courts. We all know the operators are crooks, & it could be stamped out simply by the Government. Instead, it sends a Minister to England, to sell the very properties that have been repossessed.
This might help :-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/cam...anningscandal/
Anyone got a "quick-fix solution?
Questions like,how can we go to war against tyrants & oppressors, yet, our neighbours suffer within the very democratic society we would advocate for others?
Our legal system grinds away like the mill wheels of God, & even when decisions are pronounced by the highest courts, the rulings are appealed, often set aside by lesser courts. We all know the operators are crooks, & it could be stamped out simply by the Government. Instead, it sends a Minister to England, to sell the very properties that have been repossessed.
This might help :-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/expat/cam...anningscandal/
Anyone got a "quick-fix solution?

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I can see you are hard men, but be serious, these legal crooks are simply out-facing decent people who do everything, correctly, yet, still get it wrong! It is such obvious corruption, it might be Prohibition of the 20s, USA.
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People are greedy - nothing more to be said.
It's the spanish way - it doesn't matter who gets screwed, so long as I (me me me) make money.
I see it amongst my inlaws all the time.
A couple of examples........one couldn't sell his crappy flat as was asking for too much......so sells to his brother who knows nothing about house prices.
Another one sells a car, complete pile of junk to his poor father, knowing that the engine would fail.......guess what.........engine dies within month. Never any question of getting money back....tough luck.

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But if people are dumb enough to buy the properties and buy them at over inflated prices, I say well done to the Spanish Gov.
People are greedy - nothing more to be said.
It's the spanish way - it doesn't matter who gets screwed, so long as I (me me me) make money.
I see it amongst my inlaws all the time.
A couple of examples........one couldn't sell his crappy flat as was asking for too much......so sells to his brother who knows nothing about house prices.
Another one sells a car, complete pile of junk to his poor father, knowing that the engine would fail.......guess what.........engine dies within month. Never any question of getting money back....tough luck.
People are greedy - nothing more to be said.
It's the spanish way - it doesn't matter who gets screwed, so long as I (me me me) make money.
I see it amongst my inlaws all the time.
A couple of examples........one couldn't sell his crappy flat as was asking for too much......so sells to his brother who knows nothing about house prices.
Another one sells a car, complete pile of junk to his poor father, knowing that the engine would fail.......guess what.........engine dies within month. Never any question of getting money back....tough luck.
And dont tell me that if things were the same in the UK as regards rezoning land ect, that the "elected" would not do the same?
And as for shafting ones own family, didnt the taxi driver Derrick Bird shoot a load of passers by and family members because he felt as though he had been conned by his brother, over a loan from the parents estate?

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But if people are dumb enough to buy the properties and buy them at over inflated prices, I say well done to the Spanish Gov.
People are greedy - nothing more to be said.
It's the spanish way - it doesn't matter who gets screwed, so long as I (me me me) make money.
I see it amongst my inlaws all the time.
A couple of examples........one couldn't sell his crappy flat as was asking for too much......so sells to his brother who knows nothing about house prices.
Another one sells a car, complete pile of junk to his poor father, knowing that the engine would fail.......guess what.........engine dies within month. Never any question of getting money back....tough luck.
People are greedy - nothing more to be said.
It's the spanish way - it doesn't matter who gets screwed, so long as I (me me me) make money.
I see it amongst my inlaws all the time.
A couple of examples........one couldn't sell his crappy flat as was asking for too much......so sells to his brother who knows nothing about house prices.
Another one sells a car, complete pile of junk to his poor father, knowing that the engine would fail.......guess what.........engine dies within month. Never any question of getting money back....tough luck.

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Whenever I'm able to, I pay cash and don't expect a VAT receipt, just like everyone else.

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But if people are dumb enough to buy the properties and buy them at over inflated prices, I say well done to the Spanish Gov.People are greedy - nothing more to be said.
It's the spanish way - it doesn't matter who gets screwed, so long as I (me me me) make money.
I see it amongst my inlaws all the time.
A couple of examples........one couldn't sell his crappy flat as was asking for too much......so sells to his brother who knows nothing about house prices.
Another one sells a car, complete pile of junk to his poor father, knowing that the engine would fail.......guess what.........engine dies within month. Never any question of getting money back....tough luck.
It's the spanish way - it doesn't matter who gets screwed, so long as I (me me me) make money.
I see it amongst my inlaws all the time.
A couple of examples........one couldn't sell his crappy flat as was asking for too much......so sells to his brother who knows nothing about house prices.
Another one sells a car, complete pile of junk to his poor father, knowing that the engine would fail.......guess what.........engine dies within month. Never any question of getting money back....tough luck.
I would just like to say that, what a s-hit-ty attitude you seem to have for everyone, congratulating the Spanish government, when a lot of house buyers have found themselves with negative equity, for what ever reason, I would not see it as a thing to gloat over.
Not just British I might add, but all nationalities, a great number of Spanish too.
Which is what people are saying about the UK and Austrailia, and not forgetting the USA, the house price crash is hitting hard, but of course there are always smartarses who have to stick the knife in.
So they all deserved what the got eh?

Your in laws sound a right bunch, but I would say that you fit in very well, glad it was you who married into the family and not some other poor sod, who maybe isnt such a pheasant plucker as you.

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I asked for a quick fix solution, where upon the thread took off, in a very personal direction. I am surprised that some contributors have been so abused by life, they do not have empathy for Expats who are suffering. What answer do they have for the question, " There but for he Grace of God, go I "
So, the Thread appears "Fred Bear", lost its appeal as a serious subject, yet, the answer, I offer for quick fix is, COMPENSATION. Any robbery is bad. but beggary is worse. So with a decent amount of money the loosers can start afresh.
So, the Thread appears "Fred Bear", lost its appeal as a serious subject, yet, the answer, I offer for quick fix is, COMPENSATION. Any robbery is bad. but beggary is worse. So with a decent amount of money the loosers can start afresh.

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I asked for a quick fix solution, where upon the thread took off, in a very personal direction. I am surprised that some contributors have been so abused by life, they do not have empathy for Expats who are suffering. What answer do they have for the question, " There but for he Grace of God, go I "
So, the Thread appears "Fred Bear", lost its appeal as a serious subject, yet, the answer, I offer for quick fix is, COMPENSATION. Any robbery is bad. but beggary is worse. So with a decent amount of money the loosers can start afresh.
So, the Thread appears "Fred Bear", lost its appeal as a serious subject, yet, the answer, I offer for quick fix is, COMPENSATION. Any robbery is bad. but beggary is worse. So with a decent amount of money the loosers can start afresh.
However I would say that the chances of it happening in the present economic climate would probably vary from remote to zilch.

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One of the problems with court cases and compo cases in Spain is that it is not a "quick fix" solution.
Even the most obvious cases of negligence, incompetence etc, are so slow in being resolved that I am sure that most of the affected die before any settlement has been awarded.

Sad but, I regret to say, common.
Even the most obvious cases of negligence, incompetence etc, are so slow in being resolved that I am sure that most of the affected die before any settlement has been awarded.

Sad but, I regret to say, common.
