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elspeth sinclair Mar 14th 2010 6:44 am

Re: Living in Spain - the good things!
 

Originally Posted by Dick Dasterdly (Post 8419308)
Most of the ppl I knew in the Canaries were too busy enjoying themselves all year round, to ever give a thought to such trivialities.
In any event the warming theory has virtually been kicked into touch according to other so-called experts.
In places where corruption is the norm most of these ppl don't worry about so-called shame,which to them is water on a ducks back,just as long as they keep increasing their fat bank accounts.
In any event as fast as they chuck one lot out or throw them behind bars another bunch equally as corrupt normally take their place.
I reckon you worry to much elspeth,..bad for the old ticker and blood pressure.
Try and stop reading depressing tabloids or watching TV news,...
...or even better still try a spell in the Canaries.....:thumbsup:

I don't worry at all but I do have a social conscience and I like to keep my brain active. I doubt your idea of having a good time would be very different from mine even though I was a bit of a raver 50 odd years ago. Now I prefer to watch other people make fools of themselves. You can keep the Canaries I have the feathered variety,low blood pressure and no heart problems.

Dick Dasterdly Mar 14th 2010 8:01 am

Re: Living in Spain - the good things!
 

Originally Posted by elspeth sinclair (Post 8419374)
I don't worry at all but I do have a social conscience and I like to keep my brain active. I doubt your idea of having a good time would be very different from mine even though I was a bit of a raver 50 odd years ago. Now I prefer to watch other people make fools of themselves. You can keep the Canaries I have the feathered variety,low blood pressure and no heart problems.

Ah well,nice to know we have a few things in common.
Give my regards to your canaries.
Hope you don't have them cooped up in tiny cramped cages,....but somehow I dont think you would.

fair weather lover Mar 14th 2010 9:15 am

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I am with Dick Dasterdly on all the above. Why dwell on the negative when you can create your own little heaven on earth wherever you are. However, this is so much easier to achieve in a pleasant climate rather than huddled around the tv and the fire in layers of jumpers. For example, today I have been too busy enjoying the sun to sit in front of the laptop, have pottered on the terrace dead heading the geraniums (yes in Mid March), then folding the washing whilst gazing at the sea (even towels are dry in a couple of hours here), exhausted by all this activity then lay in the sun for a couple of hours with a good book.

Another good thing about living here (for all you people in the UK who have recently had their dustbins fitted with a spy microchip) is that our bins are on virtually every street, with recycling bins also easily accessible, and are emptied every evening. For this excellent and efficient service we pay very little, in the region of a 100 euros a year, but as it is included in my rent not sure of the exact amount. Yes, there is a lot of red tape and bureaucracy here but there are also plenty of people willing and available to help you through it for a small fee of course ! :thumbup:

jackytoo Mar 14th 2010 9:33 am

Re: Living in Spain - the good things!
 
Pleasant climate:blink: where have you been the past two and a half months, not exactly been a heat wave today:lol:

Oh just realised Tenerife. Better climate than the mainland, that is all it has going for it. I thought it was a dreadful place, even benidorm was better...just!

jdr Mar 14th 2010 9:39 am

Re: Living in Spain - the good things!
 
Where abouts in Spain is your little heaven on earth, cos it has pissed down with rain and been cold apart from a few days all over Spain since mid December ? :rofl:

fair weather lover Mar 14th 2010 10:13 am

Re: Living in Spain - the good things!
 
My small piece of heaven on earth is in Tenerife, which is beautiful if you stay away from the touristy areas and has the benefit of a wonderful climate in the southern region. If your only experience of Tenerife is Las Americas then you would liken it to Benidorm and you would be right! However, it would be like comparing the Lake District with Blackpool when you had never been further than Blackpool and could have no idea of the beauty that is just a short drive away...

Dick Dasterdly Mar 14th 2010 10:19 am

Re: Living in Spain - the good things!
 

Originally Posted by jdr (Post 8419636)
Where abouts in Spain is your little heaven on earth, cos it has pissed down with rain and been cold apart from a few days all over Spain since mid December ? :rofl:

I formed my opinion by living there for most of a TEN YEAR period,NOT by reading crap news reports or having short breaks during what have been unusual and rare spells of bad weather if judged over the much longer term.
Also by travelling ALL OVER ALL of the islands, rather than staying in GROTTY tourist areas, which are much the same as anywhere else.

agoreira Mar 14th 2010 10:36 am

Re: Living in Spain - the good things!
 
Probably just me, but I fail to see the excitement that many experience here of having their rubbish collected every day! :rofl: Not really a deal breaker about whether to move or not, is it? :) Here in UK ours is once a week, and no spy wheelie bins, and quite frankly, that is enough for us, I don´t know where I´d find enough rubbish to put out every day. There´s an excellent facility five minutes away where you can dump all manner of other stuff, garden rubbish, bottles etc and you only have to phone the council and they´ll pick up fridges, tumble dryers etc for nothing.

Dick Dasterdly Mar 14th 2010 10:37 am

Re: Living in Spain - the good things!
 

Originally Posted by fair weather lover (Post 8419690)
My small piece of heaven on earth is in Tenerife, which is beautiful if you stay away from the touristy areas and has the benefit of a wonderful climate in the southern region. If your only experience of Tenerife is Las Americas then you would liken it to Benidorm and you would be right! However, it would be like comparing the Lake District with Blackpool when you had never been further than Blackpool and could have no idea of the beauty that is just a short drive away...

Its probably falling on deaf ears fair weather.
I've almost always found that punters who have only been there on a brief holiday, rarely have the even faintest clue what the islands are really all about and just how much they have to offer, well away from the tourist spots.
They probably wouldn't even begin to understand the benefits of micro-climates,rain forests,many plants unique to the islands and stunning scenery you only dream about.

Lushdaddy Mar 14th 2010 10:39 am

Re: Living in Spain - the good things!
 

Originally Posted by fair weather lover (Post 8419690)
My small piece of heaven on earth is in Tenerife, which is beautiful if you stay away from the touristy areas and has the benefit of a wonderful climate in the southern region. If your only experience of Tenerife is Las Americas then you would liken it to Benidorm and you would be right! However, it would be like comparing the Lake District with Blackpool when you had never been further than Blackpool and could have no idea of the beauty that is just a short drive away...

Well said. You'll find that some people just pick at negatives on here.. (Especially the negatives of the lands that they have decided to reside in) strange isn't it.? You enjoy your piece of heaven and may your summer be full of sun. Blackpool is awful and I found a dead porpoise on the beach once near some poo. (I think it was human poo from the sea). Touristy areas are not too bad in my opinion, plus the fact that if it weren't for tourist areas, nobody would have moved here in the first place. Everybody was a tourist at one point and found something that made them stay.
Be cool..:thumbup:

Lushdaddy Mar 14th 2010 11:14 am

Re: Living in Spain - the good things!
 

Originally Posted by agoreira (Post 8419724)
Probably just me, but I fail to see the excitement that many experience here of having their rubbish collected every day! :rofl: Not really a deal breaker about whether to move or not, is it? :) Here in UK ours is once a week, and no spy wheelie bins, and quite frankly, that is enough for us, I don´t know where I´d find enough rubbish to put out every day. There´s an excellent facility five minutes away where you can dump all manner of other stuff, garden rubbish, bottles etc and you only have to phone the council and they´ll pick up fridges, tumble dryers etc for nothing.

Probably just you.. And WOW..!! ONCE A WEEK..!! MMmm You lucky fox you.
Those people who take away tumble driers and fridges, yeah, we call them burgulars.. As for you finding enough rubbish to put out everyday, no you don't have much because you post most of it on here.:rofl::rofl:

Dick Dasterdly Mar 14th 2010 11:44 am

Re: Living in Spain - the good things!
 

Originally Posted by Lushdaddy (Post 8419776)
Probably just you.. And WOW..!! ONCE A WEEK..!! MMmm You lucky fox you.
Those people who take away tumble driers and fridges, yeah, we call them burgulars.. As for you finding enough rubbish to put out everyday, no you don't have much because you post most of it on here.:rofl::rofl:

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

JLFS Mar 14th 2010 7:42 pm

Re: Living in Spain - the good things!
 
There are lots of good things in Spain and the UK too.

The bit about the rubbish collection being everyday, was not, as Agoreira pointed out, a deciding factor in relocating for most.

The way I see it is, that British Expats, are living in Spain with their lifestyle, thanks to their "previous" life in the UK.

It is not by sheer coincidence that the majority of Britsh expats, are either living on pensions, or have money from house sale or savings.

Compare that to the Morrocans, who are here in Spain, most are struggling, in rented accommodation, and will do anything to get by. What has their country done for them, and I am sure most spent their lives working, or trying to get by.

I dont see many Morocan pensioners enjoying their autumn years on the costas, with pensions from their own country.

I know that pensioners have worked and paid national insurance to be able to get their pensions and winter fuel allowances, and I am not against that.

My point is that surly the fact that being born in the UK, plays a bit part in the status and lifestyle that you can enjoy in Spain.

So before "doing down the UK" at every ocasion, I think a litle gratefulness to your birth country is needed.

We know a lot of Spanish people who have returned after working from abroad, with all the same advantages of the native population that their "host" countries have given them. ie good pensions and savings.

Maybe you have to have been born outside the UK to really appreciate how well it looks after its citizens compared to other countries.

Jose Luis

Dick Dasterdly Mar 14th 2010 7:53 pm

Re: Living in Spain - the good things!
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8420487)
There are lots of good things in Spain and the UK too.

The bit about the rubbish collection being everyday, was not, as Agoreira pointed out, a deciding factor in relocating for most.

The way I see it is, that British Expats, are living in Spain with their lifestyle, thanks to their "previous" life in the UK.

It is not by sheer coincidence that the majority of Britsh expats, are either living on pensions, or have money from house sale or savings.

Compare that to the Morrocans, who are here in Spain, most are struggling, in rented accommodation, and will do anything to get by. What has their country done for them, and I am sure most spent their lives working, or trying to get by.

I dont see many Morocan pensioners enjoying their autumn years on the costas, with pensions from their own country.

I know that pensioners have worked and paid national insurance to be able to get their pensions and winter fuel allowances, and I am not against that.

My point is that surly the fact that being born in the UK, plays a bit part in the status and lifestyle that you can enjoy in Spain.

So before "doing down the UK" at every ocasion, I think a litle gratefulness to your birth country is needed.

We know a lot of Spanish people who have returned after working from abroad, with all the same advantages of the native population that their "host" countries have given them. ie good pensions and savings.

Maybe you have to have been born outside the UK to really appreciate how well it looks after its citizens compared to other countries.

Jose Luis

Good post and very true.
You just need to see the masses of ppl reoeatedly risking their necks on a daily basis to get into the UK rather than be stuck on mainland EU or elsewhere, to realize that the old country still must have quite a lot going for it.

agoreira Mar 14th 2010 9:18 pm

Re: Living in Spain - the good things!
 

Originally Posted by JLFS (Post 8420487)

My point is that surly the fact that being born in the UK, plays a bit part in the status and lifestyle that you can enjoy in Spain.
So before "doing down the UK" at every ocasion, I think a litle gratefulness to your birth country is needed.

Very true. I'm sure many will have worked hard to get where they are now and deserve their success, but the UK has also helped, has enabled them to get on with good wages, good jobs etc. But as you point out, there are many that rather than be a tad grateful, would prefer to simply slag off the UK. And the ironic thing is that in other forums, I have seen the one's that initially started slagging off YUK the most were the one's that ended up a few years later heading back there. Bet they miss the daily rubbish collection.:)


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