Liquid Petroleum Gas (LPG)
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Liquid Petroleum Gas (LPG)
I've been looking around and it would appear that LPG service stations still appear to be quite few and far between in Spain, whereas in the UK they are plentiful.
Am I looking in the wrong place or is it as bad as it looks? I ask because of the obvious financial benefits of buying an LPG car. That said, would re registration of an LPG car be a problem too?
Am I looking in the wrong place or is it as bad as it looks? I ask because of the obvious financial benefits of buying an LPG car. That said, would re registration of an LPG car be a problem too?
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Cepsa there appears to be only 8 in Spain
http://www.cepsa.com/cepsa/Que_ofrec...de_Suministro/
Repsol, a little better, choose the Por provincia tab and search
http://www.repsol.com/es_es/producto...o/default.aspx
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It doesn't look good
Cepsa there appears to be only 8 in Spain
http://www.cepsa.com/cepsa/Que_ofrec...de_Suministro/
Repsol, a little better, choose the Por provincia tab and search
http://www.repsol.com/es_es/producto...o/Default.aspx
Cepsa there appears to be only 8 in Spain
http://www.cepsa.com/cepsa/Que_ofrec...de_Suministro/
Repsol, a little better, choose the Por provincia tab and search
http://www.repsol.com/es_es/producto...o/Default.aspx
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Re: Liquid Petroleum Gas (LPG)
matriculation of a UK registered car to Spanish can be fraught with problems and difficulties, also expense
you will have to change the headlights to SP specn - this has just set me back €850 plus fitting
you must ensure your tyres are of the correct SPEED rating as per the original SP specification. This is something no one thinks about in the UK, you just go out and get a new set of tyres based on the main numbers - but look at the "tyre plate" on your car (it shows the pressures etc) and there is a letter defining the speed. This MUST be right or the ITV station will fail the car. (It didnt help when the new pair of tyres fitted to the BH car had one put on the wrong way round - who says they don't make mistakes in the UK)
then there is the actual matriculation at the Hacienda - that was another £600 because my car (petrol V6) has a moderately high CO2 rating, which is what it is all based on.
so unless you have a "must have" car to bring out here, then seriously think about getting €2000 in hand to cover costs.
by the way, you cannot insure a UK plated car in SP, it has to be in Gib which covers you in SP but if you have an accident then life becomes very difficult.
hth
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you will have to change the headlights to SP specn - this has just set me back €850 plus fitting
you must ensure your tyres are of the correct SPEED rating as per the original SP specification. This is something no one thinks about in the UK, you just go out and get a new set of tyres based on the main numbers - but look at the "tyre plate" on your car (it shows the pressures etc) and there is a letter defining the speed. This MUST be right or the ITV station will fail the car. (It didnt help when the new pair of tyres fitted to the BH car had one put on the wrong way round - who says they don't make mistakes in the UK)
then there is the actual matriculation at the Hacienda - that was another £600 because my car (petrol V6) has a moderately high CO2 rating, which is what it is all based on.
so unless you have a "must have" car to bring out here, then seriously think about getting €2000 in hand to cover costs.
by the way, you cannot insure a UK plated car in SP, it has to be in Gib which covers you in SP but if you have an accident then life becomes very difficult.
hth
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Re: Liquid Petroleum Gas (LPG)
matriculation of a UK registered car to Spanish can be fraught with problems and difficulties, also expense
you will have to change the headlights to SP specn - this has just set me back €850 plus fitting
you must ensure your tyres are of the correct SPEED rating as per the original SP specification. This is something no one thinks about in the UK, you just go out and get a new set of tyres based on the main numbers - but look at the "tyre plate" on your car (it shows the pressures etc) and there is a letter defining the speed. This MUST be right or the ITV station will fail the car. (It didnt help when the new pair of tyres fitted to the BH car had one put on the wrong way round - who says they don't make mistakes in the UK)
then there is the actual matriculation at the Hacienda - that was another £600 because my car (petrol V6) has a moderately high CO2 rating, which is what it is all based on.
so unless you have a "must have" car to bring out here, then seriously think about getting €2000 in hand to cover costs.
by the way, you cannot insure a UK plated car in SP, it has to be in Gib which covers you in SP but if you have an accident then life becomes very difficult.
hth
`
you will have to change the headlights to SP specn - this has just set me back €850 plus fitting
you must ensure your tyres are of the correct SPEED rating as per the original SP specification. This is something no one thinks about in the UK, you just go out and get a new set of tyres based on the main numbers - but look at the "tyre plate" on your car (it shows the pressures etc) and there is a letter defining the speed. This MUST be right or the ITV station will fail the car. (It didnt help when the new pair of tyres fitted to the BH car had one put on the wrong way round - who says they don't make mistakes in the UK)
then there is the actual matriculation at the Hacienda - that was another £600 because my car (petrol V6) has a moderately high CO2 rating, which is what it is all based on.
so unless you have a "must have" car to bring out here, then seriously think about getting €2000 in hand to cover costs.
by the way, you cannot insure a UK plated car in SP, it has to be in Gib which covers you in SP but if you have an accident then life becomes very difficult.
hth
`
I'm still erring on the side of buying in Spain, but if I see something that's too good to resist it might be worth taking that option.
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Re: Liquid Petroleum Gas (LPG)
Thanks very much for that. At present the two options I'm looking at are either buying a left hand drive car in the UK or buying in Spain. I know that re registration in Spain isn't the easiest or cheapest of options, but it might be worth it if it is extremely cost effective compared to buying in Spain. Travel and ferries also have to be factored in so it's a close call. The car I've seen is a nice left hand drive car which is LPG, but clearly if there aren't many stations, and none within 50 miles of where I'm going, there's no point!
I'm still erring on the side of buying in Spain, but if I see something that's too good to resist it might be worth taking that option.
I'm still erring on the side of buying in Spain, but if I see something that's too good to resist it might be worth taking that option.
but there are many countries that have left hand drive cars, but for example if you buy in the UK from one of the specialists in LHD the car of choice may be from "say" Germany - that will still need to be matriculated in Spain and will be subject to the same rigorous testing and checking as one from the UK, just the headlamp cost will be saved.
and any go-faster-mods that have been added will have to be removed before you can expect to get the matriculation completed. They check the VIN for the original specn and expect it to comply as if it was a new car.
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He kept a set of these tyres on a spare set of wheels for the sole purpose of the ITV because without them it failed.
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His other problems were related to the descriptions in the Ficha Tecnica.
Who ever had prepared the original document appears to have copied the details of a Ford Transit rather than the Ford Granada making the physical size of the vehicle rather amusing plus it was supposedly fitted with an engine never used in a Granada.
The chassis / engine numbers however were correct.
He took it to the same ITV testing station and often got the same examiners, but it was always a battle to get a test certificate
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Re: Liquid Petroleum Gas (LPG)
I have no reason to disbelieve the man I have seen the car, we were in business next door to each other for a few years and both interested in cars.
His other problems were related to the descriptions in the Ficha Tecnica.
Who ever had prepared the original document appears to have copied the details of a Ford Transit rather than the Ford Granada making the physical size of the vehicle rather amusing plus it was supposedly fitted with an engine never used in a Granada.
The chassis / engine numbers however were correct.
He took it to the same ITV testing station and often got the same examiners, but it was always a battle to get a test certificate
His other problems were related to the descriptions in the Ficha Tecnica.
Who ever had prepared the original document appears to have copied the details of a Ford Transit rather than the Ford Granada making the physical size of the vehicle rather amusing plus it was supposedly fitted with an engine never used in a Granada.
The chassis / engine numbers however were correct.
He took it to the same ITV testing station and often got the same examiners, but it was always a battle to get a test certificate
At the Hacienda the guy looked at the ITV document and started typing, except that he stopped to confirm that my car was a diesel - to which I said No, Gasoline.
He held up the document and pointed to a line at the beginning which said
Manufacturer: X X Ltd
so he wanted to make the car a diesel, called a chum who had a smattering of English and I explained that in England an Ltd was the same as an S.L. and had nothing to do with the actual car
its easily done unless you watch them like a barrel load of monkeys
wouldnt mind but its their damned form
Last edited by Domino; Feb 26th 2013 at 4:34 pm.
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Re: Liquid Petroleum Gas (LPG)
hopefully not teaching granny..........
but there are many countries that have left hand drive cars, but for example if you buy in the UK from one of the specialists in LHD the car of choice may be from "say" Germany - that will still need to be matriculated in Spain and will be subject to the same rigorous testing and checking as one from the UK, just the headlamp cost will be saved.
and any go-faster-mods that have been added will have to be removed before you can expect to get the matriculation completed. They check the VIN for the original specn and expect it to comply as if it was a new car.
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but there are many countries that have left hand drive cars, but for example if you buy in the UK from one of the specialists in LHD the car of choice may be from "say" Germany - that will still need to be matriculated in Spain and will be subject to the same rigorous testing and checking as one from the UK, just the headlamp cost will be saved.
and any go-faster-mods that have been added will have to be removed before you can expect to get the matriculation completed. They check the VIN for the original specn and expect it to comply as if it was a new car.
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Re: Liquid Petroleum Gas (LPG)
Hola
I had an enquiry about an LPG car a month ago - to get the conversion Homologated is a real pain. His car was converted in Poland; ITV said "Must be written in Spanish by a Spanish Engineer qualified in such things"
I asked about getting the gas tank refilled - nearest was a 30 minute drive away!!!
Davexf
I had an enquiry about an LPG car a month ago - to get the conversion Homologated is a real pain. His car was converted in Poland; ITV said "Must be written in Spanish by a Spanish Engineer qualified in such things"
I asked about getting the gas tank refilled - nearest was a 30 minute drive away!!!
Davexf