Capnbooboo

Hoy !!

I was working living and working in Spain, i established a tax ID - NEI, had great flat in W.Eixample but the romance with someone ended in a nightmare during 2009 and i left for home to get over it.

Behind me i left my things to flat mates, including a macbook and a small un paid credit card debt of 300€ and loan of 2500€.

It is now 2015, i have plans to return with hopes to live and work in Spain with a mate again but i am worried about what will happen, i worry about been stopped at airports about the debt, prevented from having a NEI or simply been hunted by collectors i heard about that stalk and harass people.

Can anyone please advise about this, really really appreciate it

Rosemary

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Dondurma

Hi Cap'n

Are you going to repay the €2500 loan?

Capnbooboo

after i settle in and open a bank account i guess, im just not sure how they do things in Spain, before i left someone told me a two debt collectors stalked and attacked a girl, it was in the news and all later

Dondurma

We'll if you owe the loan then repay it, so there's no debt collectors looking you

€2500 is a considerable sum for which debt collectors could be involved

Capnbooboo

Do they not black list people in Spain?
My NEI expired a few years ago and i assume i will have to refresh or re apply for one again,

Do you know how this works?, i imagine not much changed in Spain

Fred James

It's an NIE, not NEI and they never expire. You get one for life.

You can apply for an NIE certificate when required for some transactions and these do have an expiry date but your number stays with you.

Capnbooboo

You are correct, i confused the NEI with my actual residence card which expired 2011,

Do you know if i have to do anything administration wise when i return to Spain, im sort of trying out a few jobs but nothing solid.

lynnxa

yes, you'll have to register as resident again - you'll keep the same NIE

for that you'll have to show that you have sufficient income & /or funds in a Spanish bank account, & that you have healthcare provision in place

if you have a contracted job, or are registered as autónomo, that will cover that, otherwise, you'll have to show income from another source & have private health insurance

Capnbooboo

I did have a job the first time i went but my flatmate got a residency card with out working, i think she only used a registry to show where she lived, she got some paper with her address etc.

What is exactly is residency card good for?

lynnxa

since autumn 2012 you've had to prove income & healthcare provision in order to register as resident

it isn't a case of 'what is it good for?' - although you will need it for lots of things - it's simply obligatory that you register if you are, or intend to be, here more that 90 days

Horlics

Hi Cap'n,

You're obviously concerned so you might find yourself looking over your shoulder once you're here. Is it worth the stress?

If "I guess" ever turns into "I will", I can tell you exactly how things work in Spain, it's exactly as they work in the UK. You pick up the phone, tell the organisation you owe money to who you are, and agree to pay them.

The bad news is, they might have added interest and fees. You might want to check that and reach and agreement before you reveal where you are living.

I strongly suspect that you will be able to turn up and will never be chased for the money.

I am sure you won't be held at the airport.

Whatever you decide, can I recommend you don't try this stunt elsewhere. In the Middle East you would be held at the airport even if just transferring and not entering the country. You'd be chucked in jail and left for a couple of days before being spoken to. You'd be held there until somebody came along and paid off your debt.

Capnbooboo

what you mean by stunt
i have no problems paying a debt, just wondering what to expect if i have to register for a residency card again., i guess from what lynnxa says i will have to wait for this until i get a work contract

Fredbargate

Why not contact the people you owe before you set out for Spain?

avocados

It's a civil matter so of course you won't get detained at airports or anywhere else. For such a small amount, you're not going to have people running around after you making demands. In Spain, running up debts and not ever paying them back is a national sport. Anybody pursues you just tell them to F. off in very clear terms. If anyone wants money let them find you and take you to court and even if a court gives a judgement against you, let them take you to court again to reclaim the money. That's the way it works. Of course at that stage you then claim poverty and destitution like every Spaniard that owes money.

Play the game.

So chillout and enjoy your return.