At last good news from Andalucia
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At last good news from Andalucia
Andalucia - the region of Spain where exports have grown the most!
I really hope, for the sake of all the unemployed down there, that things can continue in this vein. It's never good when young people feel the economy can never improve.
http://www.diariodesevilla.es/articl.../millones.html
I really hope, for the sake of all the unemployed down there, that things can continue in this vein. It's never good when young people feel the economy can never improve.
Las exportaciones andaluzas baten su récord al superar los 18.400 millones
Las ventas de la región al exterior crecen un 28% en 2010, doce puntos más que el avance regitrado a nivel nacional, del 16,2%
Las ventas de la región al exterior crecen un 28% en 2010, doce puntos más que el avance regitrado a nivel nacional, del 16,2%
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I agree totally, with your sentiments, Steve but having read the article, I am not sure that these companies employ great numbers of the youth in Andalucia.
While it is good news and very positive, Andalucia, this time last month had nearly 1 million unemployed. http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2011/0...296635517.html
Whenever there seems to be big projects in Andalucia, a large majority of the workforce seem to be relocated here from other parts of Spain or Europe.
I don't know if this is down to the special skills required or that the companies are from other parts of Spain, and hire from that region.
While it is good news and very positive, Andalucia, this time last month had nearly 1 million unemployed. http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2011/0...296635517.html
Whenever there seems to be big projects in Andalucia, a large majority of the workforce seem to be relocated here from other parts of Spain or Europe.
I don't know if this is down to the special skills required or that the companies are from other parts of Spain, and hire from that region.
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Pity it is not reflected in the jobs market. Another 68,200 lost their jobs in Spain in Feb.
http://www.diariosur.es/rc/20110302/...103020902.html
Over 14,000 more in andalucia.
http://www.diariosur.es/rc/20110302/...103020902.html
Over 14,000 more in andalucia.
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Andalucia - the region of Spain where exports have grown the most!
I really hope, for the sake of all the unemployed down there, that things can continue in this vein. It's never good when young people feel the economy can never improve.
http://www.diariodesevilla.es/articl.../millones.html
I really hope, for the sake of all the unemployed down there, that things can continue in this vein. It's never good when young people feel the economy can never improve.
http://www.diariodesevilla.es/articl.../millones.html
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As for what they export the article did try and classify
Por sectores, la venta de productos de las industrias químicas creció un 85% hasta alcanzar los 1.493 millones, y los productos minerales un 45,5% hasta 3.149 millones. La exportación de metales y sus manufacturas subió un 39,7% hasta los 2.329 millones, mientras que la partida que más creció fue la de piedras, metales preciosos y monedas, un 243%, aunque sólo significó el 1,1% del total, 206 millones.
En 2010, Andalucía vendió productos y servicios a 190 países. Por destinos, los mayores crecimientos fueron a Italia (53%), EEUU (40,3%), Bélgica (38,4%) y China (35,3%). El bloque conformado por Francia, Portugal, Italia y Alemania, los principales mercados de la región, acapararon el 38,6% de todas las exportaciones.
En 2010, Andalucía vendió productos y servicios a 190 países. Por destinos, los mayores crecimientos fueron a Italia (53%), EEUU (40,3%), Bélgica (38,4%) y China (35,3%). El bloque conformado por Francia, Portugal, Italia y Alemania, los principales mercados de la región, acapararon el 38,6% de todas las exportaciones.
http://www.entrepreneursolo.com/entr...onomy-in-spain
Therefore it is clear that people are signing off the self employed register and signing onto the unemployed register but they are continuing to do the work they did previously. However the government now doesn’t get their social security payment and VAT is not been collected either meaning that central government income goes down.
The proof. Well anecdotally there is a small town in Andalucia where everyone is officially unemployed now apparently yet spending in the local area has remained constant from 2008 to now. ie money is still there but it is just not as visible as it used to be.
The proof. Well anecdotally there is a small town in Andalucia where everyone is officially unemployed now apparently yet spending in the local area has remained constant from 2008 to now. ie money is still there but it is just not as visible as it used to be.
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So in one month another 68,000 decided to work for black money, I don't think so
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Esto me de mucha lastima...soy un joven Espanol de 24 anos con estudios de Universidad y hablo Espanol y Ingles perfectamente ( he vivido muchos anos en Nueva York) y no puedo encontrar NINGUN trabajo. Yo aplico y aplico a diferentes lugares pero NADA....ni un trabajo en un Mcdonalds! Me siento muy perdido y triste como seguramente mucha gente de mi edad tambien....con 24 anos un tio teniendo que depender de sus padres (que tambien lo estan pasando mal ahora mismo) ... la verdad es que Espana ya parece un pais tercer mundista...esto es una MIERDA de pais...que lastima que no tengas papeles en Estados Unidos si no yo regresaria en un instante ya que alli TODO EL MUNDO de mi edad tienen trabajos ganado por la menos 350 euros a la semana! Espana = Peor pais "desarollado
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Esto me de mucha lastima...soy un joven Espanol de 24 anos con estudios de Universidad y hablo Espanol y Ingles perfectamente ( he vivido muchos anos en Nueva York) y no puedo encontrar NINGUN trabajo. Yo aplico y aplico a diferentes lugares pero NADA....ni un trabajo en un Mcdonalds! Me siento muy perdido y triste como seguramente mucha gente de mi edad tambien....con 24 anos un tio teniendo que depender de sus padres (que tambien lo estan pasando mal ahora mismo) ... la verdad es que Espana ya parece un pais tercer mundista...esto es una MIERDA de pais...que lastima que no tengas papeles en Estados Unidos si no yo regresaria en un instante ya que alli TODO EL MUNDO de mi edad tienen trabajos ganado por la menos 350 euros a la semana! Espana = Peor pais "desarollado
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So in one month another 68,000 decided to work for black money, I don't think so
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Esto me de mucha lastima...soy un joven Espanol de 24 anos con estudios de Universidad y hablo Espanol y Ingles perfectamente ( he vivido muchos anos en Nueva York) y no puedo encontrar NINGUN trabajo. Yo aplico y aplico a diferentes lugares pero NADA....ni un trabajo en un Mcdonalds! Me siento muy perdido y triste como seguramente mucha gente de mi edad tambien....con 24 anos un tio teniendo que depender de sus padres (que tambien lo estan pasando mal ahora mismo) ... la verdad es que Espana ya parece un pais tercer mundista...esto es una MIERDA de pais...que lastima que no tengas papeles en Estados Unidos si no yo regresaria en un instante ya que alli TODO EL MUNDO de mi edad tienen trabajos ganado por la menos 350 euros a la semana! Espana = Peor pais "desarollado
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Esto me de mucha lastima...soy un joven Espanol de 24 anos con estudios de Universidad y hablo Espanol y Ingles perfectamente ( he vivido muchos anos en Nueva York) y no puedo encontrar NINGUN trabajo. Yo aplico y aplico a diferentes lugares pero NADA....ni un trabajo en un Mcdonalds! Me siento muy perdido y triste como seguramente mucha gente de mi edad tambien....con 24 anos un tio teniendo que depender de sus padres (que tambien lo estan pasando mal ahora mismo) ... la verdad es que Espana ya parece un pais tercer mundista...esto es una MIERDA de pais...que lastima que no tengas papeles en Estados Unidos si no yo regresaria en un instante ya que alli TODO EL MUNDO de mi edad tienen trabajos ganado por la menos 350 euros a la semana! Espana = Peor pais "desarollado
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He should try London, it hass worked for a lot of people I know
Then with 3-4 years experience in London it will be easier to come back to Spain and get a good job.
The job market is without doubt the worst aspect of Spain
That reminds me, yesterday I watched Espanoles en el Mundo Los Angeles - and the featured people were are asked "When can we see you back in Spain". They all said "I'd love to, but there is no way I can have such a good job in Spain".
There are exceptions of course, but generally the job market here is very tough whether someone has qualifications or not
Then with 3-4 years experience in London it will be easier to come back to Spain and get a good job.
The job market is without doubt the worst aspect of Spain
That reminds me, yesterday I watched Espanoles en el Mundo Los Angeles - and the featured people were are asked "When can we see you back in Spain". They all said "I'd love to, but there is no way I can have such a good job in Spain".
There are exceptions of course, but generally the job market here is very tough whether someone has qualifications or not
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He should try London, it hass worked for a lot of people I know
Then with 3-4 years experience in London it will be easier to come back to Spain and get a good job.
The job market is without doubt the worst aspect of Spain
That reminds me, yesterday I watched Espanoles en el Mundo Los Angeles - and the featured people were are asked "When can we see you back in Spain". They all said "I'd love to, but there is no way I can have such a good job in Spain".
There are exceptions of course, but generally the job market here is very tough whether someone has qualifications or not
Then with 3-4 years experience in London it will be easier to come back to Spain and get a good job.
The job market is without doubt the worst aspect of Spain
That reminds me, yesterday I watched Espanoles en el Mundo Los Angeles - and the featured people were are asked "When can we see you back in Spain". They all said "I'd love to, but there is no way I can have such a good job in Spain".
There are exceptions of course, but generally the job market here is very tough whether someone has qualifications or not
He has nothing to lose by going to London, as his home will still be there if all else fails.
Being fluent in English would give him a head start, and there is no probs entering the UK as there are in the US.
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Espanol y Ingles? As an ever so 'umble student of Spanish, I always thought it should be "español E inglés" (y becomes e when it precedes a word beginning with i, hi or y), and no capital letter needed for the language. Perfect, my ar$e!
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A lot of us are hoping that the new start-up companies mushrooming all over the place will eventually provide work for young people, both in Spain and in other countries like the UK (has anyone seen the unemployment figures for young people in the UK? Rising over 20% ) Otherwise, where is the work going to come from? We can't all be Germany, although I suppose a certain number can go and work there. There are companies and sectors in Spain (and also in the UK) that are succeeding and increasing profits/exports etc despite the downturn of the last 2 years (and I can keep giving links to those who wish to be bored); unfortunately it hasn't been enough to offset the large numbers of unemployed. Does anyone have a realistic answer, or do we just wait for the next boom and hope people find work eventually?
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A lot of us are hoping that the new start-up companies mushrooming all over the place will eventually provide work for young people, both in Spain and in other countries like the UK (has anyone seen the unemployment figures for young people in the UK? Rising over 20% ) Otherwise, where is the work going to come from? We can't all be Germany, although I suppose a certain number can go and work there. There are companies and sectors in Spain (and also in the UK) that are succeeding and increasing profits/exports etc despite the downturn of the last 2 years (and I can keep giving links to those who wish to be bored); unfortunately it hasn't been enough to offset the large numbers of unemployed. Does anyone have a realistic answer, or do we just wait for the next boom and hope people find work eventually?
But you are correct that there are many peaks and troughs in London for example - it is much more difficult for a young graduate to get a good job now than it was 5 years ago.
One of the companies I work with now only (with a few exceptions) recruits Oxbridge graduates with firsts. They offer the same starting salary as always (£25k) but say with the economy the way it is they can get a way better employee for that salary.
God knows what happens if you have a 2.2 from an old poly. Maybe you try and get a job at Comet? Seriously, or a call centre or something
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When I managed a Software support desk I needed someone simply to enter calls into the call system. You needed to be able to listen to the problem and type it in in an organised fashion. We advertised in the local paper and got 150 applications. I decided that I would interview 10 at most. Everyone without a degree got a polite rejection. That was basically an office junior's job and it was 15 years ago...
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Therefore it is clear that people are signing off the self employed register and signing onto the unemployed register but they are continuing to do the work they did previously. However the government now doesn’t get their social security payment and VAT is not been collected either meaning that central government income goes down.
The proof. Well anecdotally there is a small town in Andalucia where everyone is officially unemployed now apparently yet spending in the local area has remained constant from 2008 to now. ie money is still there but it is just not as visible as it used to be.
The proof. Well anecdotally there is a small town in Andalucia where everyone is officially unemployed now apparently yet spending in the local area has remained constant from 2008 to now. ie money is still there but it is just not as visible as it used to be.