The JOKE killed someone..
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But for those of us who can't imagine we could ever be responsible for our own actions, luckily there are solicitors who specialise in getting us "compensation" for all we choose to blame on others (and perhaps more importantly, stand to gain a generous cash payoff from). I understand it's a booming business.
How much you think the sharks could extract from the pranksters, the radio station, the hospital or even the NHS? (even though the NHS has nothing to do with it, they do have a bit of cash, don't they?).
Shit, maybe I should sue them for the grief I suffered watching the news coverage... Maybe the beeb and everybody else too?
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Lese-majeste ! Off with their heads !
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Domino & Rose.....why has any of these ramblings about the NHS,the data protection act or whatever else,to do with the original point?
The prank call was deliberate action to invade someone's privacy, done to boost ratings and their earnings.
If the wife of a member of the royal family is deemed an acceptable target for such an invasion, where does that leave the rest of us?
The prank call was deliberate action to invade someone's privacy, done to boost ratings and their earnings.
If the wife of a member of the royal family is deemed an acceptable target for such an invasion, where does that leave the rest of us?
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Nice take on it, it's the Palace's fault, they caused the prank to happen.
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Seriously though it is silly trying to make this someone's fault. It was a tragic series of events with a totally unpredictable outcome.
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The outcome I do agree could not be foreseen by anyone including the 2 pranksters. But the fact that should their prank be a success someone would end up in deep do do could have been foreseen. For me this is what made this an unacceptable prank, unlike some other tv radio pranks where it is just a made up situation and at the end the person concerned is told it was a prank etc.
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Maybe strangely they considered her medical condition to be a confidential matter? or maybe they should have a facebook page with pictures of her puking etc.
The outcome I do agree could not be foreseen by anyone including the 2 pranksters. But the fact that should their prank be a success someone would end up in deep do do could have been foreseen. For me this is what made this an unacceptable prank, unlike some other tv radio pranks where it is just a made up situation and at the end the person concerned is told it was a prank etc.
The outcome I do agree could not be foreseen by anyone including the 2 pranksters. But the fact that should their prank be a success someone would end up in deep do do could have been foreseen. For me this is what made this an unacceptable prank, unlike some other tv radio pranks where it is just a made up situation and at the end the person concerned is told it was a prank etc.
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Maybe strangely they considered her medical condition to be a confidential matter? or maybe they should have a facebook page with pictures of her puking etc.
The outcome I do agree could not be foreseen by anyone including the 2 pranksters. But the fact that should their prank be a success someone would end up in deep do do could have been foreseen. For me this is what made this an unacceptable prank, unlike some other tv radio pranks where it is just a made up situation and at the end the person concerned is told it was a prank etc.
The outcome I do agree could not be foreseen by anyone including the 2 pranksters. But the fact that should their prank be a success someone would end up in deep do do could have been foreseen. For me this is what made this an unacceptable prank, unlike some other tv radio pranks where it is just a made up situation and at the end the person concerned is told it was a prank etc.
But its not ok to have a prank where someone commits suicide.
Please tell how you can foresee the consequences of such pranks ???
I am not saying what the 2 from Oz did was right, but within the scheme of things they were just trying to break the boundaries which they did and got through.
They had no way of knowing that one of the people concerned would commit suicide, against her religion and the tenants all humans are brought up with from birth.
They also didnt know they would lose their jobs and be vilified throughout their chosen profession, nor that others at their radio station may also lose their jobs.
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Possibly her "true" medical condition has not been revealed. I have seen her live and she is painfully thin, getting to look like a lollipop head
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so its ok to have a prank where no one gets hurt, even though they may be made to look a fool or worse in front of their family, friends, the media, the world and have their ability to work severely impacted.
But its not ok to have a prank where someone commits suicide.
Please tell how you can foresee the consequences of such pranks ???
I am not saying what the 2 from Oz did was right, but within the scheme of things they were just trying to break the boundaries which they did and got through.
They had no way of knowing that one of the people concerned would commit suicide, against her religion and the tenants all humans are brought up with from birth.
They also didnt know they would lose their jobs and be vilified throughout their chosen profession, nor that others at their radio station may also lose their jobs.
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But its not ok to have a prank where someone commits suicide.
Please tell how you can foresee the consequences of such pranks ???
I am not saying what the 2 from Oz did was right, but within the scheme of things they were just trying to break the boundaries which they did and got through.
They had no way of knowing that one of the people concerned would commit suicide, against her religion and the tenants all humans are brought up with from birth.
They also didnt know they would lose their jobs and be vilified throughout their chosen profession, nor that others at their radio station may also lose their jobs.
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You ask how you can foresee the consequences of such a prank.
Come on someone phones up and requests confidential medical information about a member of the Royal family and the person making the call can't foresee that should they get any information the person answering and giving the information would not end up in serious trouble work wise? That could be foreseen by anyone, as I have said the actual awful outcome in this instance could never have been foreseen by anyone.
By the way should anyone involved from the Radio Station loose their jobs then I have no sympathy to be honest.
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Domino I am not saying that to humiliate someone in such pranks is acceptable in any circumstances, however as has been said previously in this thread. These type of pranks set up situations are not normally about sensitive situations such as medical conditions and usually prior to being aired the persons gives consent.
You ask how you can foresee the consequences of such a prank.
Come on someone phones up and requests confidential medical information about a member of the Royal family and the person making the call can't foresee that should they get any information the person answering and giving the information would not end up in serious trouble work wise? That could be foreseen by anyone, as I have said the actual awful outcome in this instance could never have been foreseen by anyone.
By the way should anyone involved from the Radio Station loose their jobs then I have no sympathy to be honest.
You ask how you can foresee the consequences of such a prank.
Come on someone phones up and requests confidential medical information about a member of the Royal family and the person making the call can't foresee that should they get any information the person answering and giving the information would not end up in serious trouble work wise? That could be foreseen by anyone, as I have said the actual awful outcome in this instance could never have been foreseen by anyone.
By the way should anyone involved from the Radio Station loose their jobs then I have no sympathy to be honest.
People make mistakes. They do. It's called being human, and making mistakes is a critical part of life. If we didn't make mistakes, then would wouldn't learn anything. Mistakes should be embraced, not prohibited.
If this person felt that her mistake was so unforgivable that she had to take her life, then it seems to me that either a) there is something very wrong with hospital management, or b) something very wrong with her mental condition due to other factors, or as a last resort, some sort of voodoo.... ? In any case, how can this possibly be the fault of the DJs, the radio station, the media or anyone else... ? Enlighten me, please.
I realise that may seem terrible unsympathetic to anyone who'd prefer to blame the DJs, the media, the NHS (laughable), or anyone else...
..but c'mon, think about it...
What else shall we ban to protect ourselves from ourselves?
Here's a few suggestions of mine:
- Riding bikes (can be hit by cars)
- Driving cars (could hit bikes)
- Going out at night (it's dark)
- Going out in the day (sunlight causes cancer)
- Pets (can bite someone)
- Comedy (someone could be offended)
- Money (carries germs)
- Putting things on top of things (could fall off)
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I don't see any evidence that anyone tried to humiliate anyone. There were some radio DJ's who decided to call the hospital on air, acting as the queen, to try to see if someone would comment on the Duchess' condition (and actually got some info), but I'd hardly call that humiliating. In fact any 10 year old apparently could have done the same. But the DJs got there first.
People make mistakes. They do. It's called being human, and making mistakes is a critical part of life. If we didn't make mistakes, then would wouldn't learn anything. Mistakes should be embraced, not prohibited.
If this person felt that her mistake was so unforgivable that she had to take her life, then it seems to me that either a) there is something very wrong with hospital management, or b) something very wrong with her mental condition due to other factors, or as a last resort, some sort of voodoo.... ? In any case, how can this possibly be the fault of the DJs, the radio station, the media or anyone else... ? Enlighten me, please.
I realise that may seem terrible unsympathetic to anyone who'd prefer to blame the DJs, the media, the NHS (laughable), or anyone else...
..but c'mon, think about it...
What else shall we ban to protect ourselves from ourselves?
Here's a few suggestions of mine:
People make mistakes. They do. It's called being human, and making mistakes is a critical part of life. If we didn't make mistakes, then would wouldn't learn anything. Mistakes should be embraced, not prohibited.
If this person felt that her mistake was so unforgivable that she had to take her life, then it seems to me that either a) there is something very wrong with hospital management, or b) something very wrong with her mental condition due to other factors, or as a last resort, some sort of voodoo.... ? In any case, how can this possibly be the fault of the DJs, the radio station, the media or anyone else... ? Enlighten me, please.
I realise that may seem terrible unsympathetic to anyone who'd prefer to blame the DJs, the media, the NHS (laughable), or anyone else...
..but c'mon, think about it...
What else shall we ban to protect ourselves from ourselves?
Here's a few suggestions of mine:
- Riding bikes (can be hit by cars)
- Driving cars (could hit bikes)
- Going out at night (it's dark)
- Going out in the day (sunlight causes cancer)
- Pets (can bite someone)
- Comedy (someone could be offended)
- Money (carries germs)
- Putting things on top of things (could fall off)
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I don't see any evidence that anyone tried to humiliate anyone. There were some radio DJ's who decided to call the hospital on air, acting as the queen, to try to see if someone would comment on the Duchess' condition (and actually got some info), but I'd hardly call that humiliating. In fact any 10 year old apparently could have done the same. But the DJs got there first.
People make mistakes. They do. It's called being human, and making mistakes is a critical part of life. If we didn't make mistakes, then would wouldn't learn anything. Mistakes should be embraced, not prohibited.
If this person felt that her mistake was so unforgivable that she had to take her life, then it seems to me that either a) there is something very wrong with hospital management, or b) something very wrong with her mental condition due to other factors, or as a last resort, some sort of voodoo.... ? In any case, how can this possibly be the fault of the DJs, the radio station, the media or anyone else... ? Enlighten me, please.
I realise that may seem terrible unsympathetic to anyone who'd prefer to blame the DJs, the media, the NHS (laughable), or anyone else...
..but c'mon, think about it...
What else shall we ban to protect ourselves from ourselves?
Here's a few suggestions of mine:
People make mistakes. They do. It's called being human, and making mistakes is a critical part of life. If we didn't make mistakes, then would wouldn't learn anything. Mistakes should be embraced, not prohibited.
If this person felt that her mistake was so unforgivable that she had to take her life, then it seems to me that either a) there is something very wrong with hospital management, or b) something very wrong with her mental condition due to other factors, or as a last resort, some sort of voodoo.... ? In any case, how can this possibly be the fault of the DJs, the radio station, the media or anyone else... ? Enlighten me, please.
I realise that may seem terrible unsympathetic to anyone who'd prefer to blame the DJs, the media, the NHS (laughable), or anyone else...
..but c'mon, think about it...
What else shall we ban to protect ourselves from ourselves?
Here's a few suggestions of mine:
- Riding bikes (can be hit by cars)
- Driving cars (could hit bikes)
- Going out at night (it's dark)
- Going out in the day (sunlight causes cancer)
- Pets (can bite someone)
- Comedy (someone could be offended)
- Money (carries germs)
- Putting things on top of things (could fall off)
Her Indian heritage may have played a large part in how guilty she felt, she may have been a perfectionist that rarely made mistakes.
Shortly after this story I made a mistake with a marketing mailing for one of my clients, which affected about 60 holiday letters, I was really upset for days. I don't make those sorts of mistakes, and I analyzed it over and over to workout where the error occurred, and that was over 60 holiday letters, not something that the broadcast across the world. I was upset for days, not because I suffer from depression, or any other mental health issues, just because I try extremely hard to do the best job I can for my clients.
I agree that it would be difficult to predictable someone would kill themselves over this, but it was predictable that someone may lose their job. The radio station wants their DJs to get an audience, at any cost. The DJ's were just doing their job. For me, I wouldn't really tune in to hear that sort of stuff, i find it juvenile.
So in short, unless you were her, we'll never know exactly what was going on.